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Stop using words like Spirituality

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Truth Mixed with Error or falsehood makes it a Myth. You can not call it History, itihas or anything else.
To us Hindus, we want to believe it so we say it is History, but to a discerning eye, it is full of holes so it is less than facts. In Ramayana and Mahabharata, there are many embellishments. But that makes the story interesting.
But so is the Roman and Greek Myths.
 

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A blog titled “Nostradamus and India” has been published on the Times of India website on March 28, 2017. Francois Gautier, the author of this blog, claims to have chanced upon some hidden manuscripts according to which Nostradamus predicted that a supreme leader will be born in the state of Gujarat and his first name would be Narendrus (Narendra). Fracois Gautier claims that these manuscripts were discovered in 2012. He writes:

In 2012, French scholar and Nostradamus specialist, Bamprelle de la Rochefoucault, discovered in an old trunk bought two hundred euros to an antiques dealer, old manuscripts which have been analyzed and found to be of the 15th century. There are quite a few stanzas devoted to India, which is named here as Indicus in Latin and Indes in old French.

So, in 2012, some Nostradamus specialist discovered an old trunk which had these magical pronouncements. The only problem with this claim is that in the 51st volume of RSS weekly magazine Organiser published in 1999, it is claimed that “an old trunk” was discovered just last month by “hopeless hinduphile Francois Gautier” and according to the manuscripts, it was Nostradamus who had founded RSS 400 years ago. (ROFL).

In fact, Francois Gautier has discovered the “old trunk” so many times over that it is difficult to keep track. He discovered it in his 2009 blog titled “Nostradamus and Saffron”. And then again in his 2014 blog titled “Nostradamus and 2014” elections. And the latest discovery of the “old trunk” happened on March 28, 2017 on the TOI blog. In fact, everytime Mr Gautier discovers this old trunk, the contents inside the trunk seem to change magically. The Nostradamus predictions coming out of this same “old trunk” vary from Nostradamus actually having founded RSS to Narendra Modi, the supreme leader of India, being born in Gujarat.

https://www.altnews.in/fake-nostrad...autier-published-toi-zee-news-modi-publicity/



Have we not been fooled by Europeans before?
 
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Mr. TKS posted that thread, but there was no response, and it was closed.

I have no problem with this post as there is a discussion.

All threads close after sometime if there is inactivity or at the express request of thread starter.

Also there is no need to have problem with any thread provided it is within forum rules.
 
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a-TB

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Truth Mixed with Error or falsehood makes it a Myth. You can not call it History, itihas or anything else.
To us Hindus, we want to believe it so we say it is History, but to a discerning eye, it is full of holes so it is less than facts. In Ramayana and Mahabharata, there are many embellishments. But that makes the story interesting.
But so is the Roman and Greek Myths.


I believe

History is not equal to Ithihas
Myth is not equal to Ithihas
They all cannot be lumped as one is the message of post 1

Ithihas is embellishments on history - like a historical novel. Since it is a novel it has 'falsehoods' and since it is based on history there is truth in it
 
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I have read a lot of his writing. I am not a fan of Hindutva Gang.
Some of the leaders he vilifies, I admire.
Like Gandhi, Nehru etc.
Who is he to tell the Hindus how to live their life. Why must we always fight with Muslims? They are as much Indian as Hindus, and the majority of them are not going anywhere.

I think there is no conversion possible in Hinduism. So if this fellow says he is a Hindu let us respect his wish and take him as a Hindu. Why should we insist that he is not a Hindu and then say 'who is he to tell us' . Then we are creating divisions. He is a human being and is entitled to choose his religion and give his views. We can comment on his writing but if he is not violent we should not attack him personally. This is my thinking.

I dont think we should fight with anyone - Muslims or Christians. But if anyone attacks any Indian by 'outside India' powers to convert then that person must defend themselves. Again that is my thinking
 

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Because Francois Gautier is such a divisive man, anything he says is suspect.
I used to be his fan. Some of what he says I agree with. But I disagree with his methods and his virulent writing style.

Francois Gautier, the France-born, India-based journalist of “Nostradamus predicted the rise of Narendra Modi” fame, is a pained man. He recently, as is his charitable wont, took up cudgels on behalf of “Hindu pride”, raising an important point: “Why should Aamir Khan, a Muslim, play in most ancient and sacred of Hindu epics, the Mahabharata?”

Gautier was reacting to reports of a planned on-screen adaptation of Mahabharat, in which Khan could possibly play Krishna.

Only, turns out, Hindus don’t seem to care about the issue as hotly as Gautier does. His comments sparked a tweet-war, with lyricist Javed Akhtar taking the lead in calling out his communal statements, and a lot of Hindus chimed in to say they were perfectly fine with Khan as Krishna, thank you very much.

A bitter Gautier later posted: “It’s funny, when I objected to Aamir Khan playing Lord Krishna in Mahabharat, most of those who trolled me, saying I was raking-up communal disharmony, were Hindus. Show how much Nehruvianism has taken firm roots in the intellectual class of Hindus’ minds and how much the spirit of Kashtrianism in Hindus has fallen down. Shame to a nation and a people, who lose the pride in their culture and spirituality and are ready to abandon it to a religion who repeatedly raped, enslaved and massacred their temples, men, women and children. Shame on you Hindus !”



https://www.dailyo.in/variety/franc...u-pride-muslims-mahabharat/story/1/23084.html
 
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