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Liberals, Seculars vs Right Wing - How & what influences people to grow to be one ?


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Liberals, Seculars vs Right Wing - How & what influences people to grow to be one ?

First off, there can be no moral justification to support directly or indirectly any criminal activities like lunchings, killings, communal hatred etc. And as per scriptures, one only gains bad karma by supporting such thugs, criminals, and their immoral activities. etc.. Despite this, we have huge number of people following right wing parties, justifying their actions and cheering them.

How can a religious society, most educated and some highly educated people, support such immoral and criminal actions ? What makes these people susceptible to such influences ? ** ( excluding all people who unfortunately could not study formal schooling and college due to poverty, money problems, other issues)

In one word - in-depth study of "ancient and medieval" literature at a young age is the key influencer of whether one becomes a secular, liberal or a right wing. They deeply influence a person at a sub conscious level, that plays significant part in their later life choices. ** (specifically excluding all neo fiction, novels, other literature)

Liberal Group - People who study Indian/ Sanskrit literature in depth - Ramayanam, Mahabharatam, Bagawad Gitam, Silapathigaram, Manimeghalai, etc.. Not just read the story outline, but the detailed discourses of Krishnar upadesam, Vashisthar upadesam, Bheesmar upadesam, Karnan's discourse with his wife before the final war, legends of Krishnars and Karnan's moral dilemma and conflicts etc,,on raja Dharmam, moral duty and laws, Karmic impacts etc..are strongly rooted in liberal values, inclusive approach, strong duty to oppose bad actions, narratives. Not taught in most of our schools,except for those who study Sanskrit language and hence its literature is covered as part of the syllabus. Some may cover native language author,s Ramayanam etc.. versions in their language studies.

Secular Group - People who study English literature in depth - Hamlet, Macbeth, Julius Ceasar, Roman republic, senate, moral law, etc..are deeply influenced by western thought and they tend to move towards the liberal "secular" group. They get influenced by western thoughts and keep religion and politics separate. Remember most students hardly study them in school colleges, they skip all this or just mug them without really understanding them as most lack interest or do not focus on them. Most schools don't even cover these topics. Also they don't study the entire novel, only some portions are redacted for school and college study.

Right Wing Group - People who mostly do "not study literature in depth", in their younger life or later, but are experts in other non literature fields like science, engineering, etc.. are more susceptible to these influences and they likely end up on the right wing narratives. Hence despite being highly educated and successful, they end up supporting right wing narratives due to ideological influences or personal experiences, etc..And once they are influenced by this narrative, it becomes very tough to change their views. They do not have a strong exposure on moral laws, Dharmam, karmam, and hence the value systems are weak making them susceptible to right wing propaganda.

The point is everyone knows the high level stories of Ramayanam, Mahabharatam, Puranas, etc..they also know right vs wrong, but they are "not rooted" in it. What I mean is, say, if you read the extraordinary discourse between Karnan and his wife prior to the final war, you will be deeply influenced by it, unlike just watching a story on TV or movies. So when a person is confronted by major moral dilemma, they will automatically or sub consciously choose the right moral course of action !!

For eg,

In the final war, Karnan's wife cries and implores her husband not to go to war, she warns him that Krishnar will get him killed so that they can win the war. And she doesn't care what people say, what Duryodhanan says, doesn't care if people say Karnan is a coward, or ran away from the battle field, etc.

Karnan then gives an extraordinary discourse on duties of a warrior, duties of a King towards his people, toward his soldiers and generals, and towards his wife and family. He says his Dharmam to his people and his King Duryodhanan is more important than his family etc..He says, when millions of women have already lost their husbands, whose husbands he personally sent to death in this war, it is "absolutely unthinkable" for him to even think of not going to war. His life will have no meaning and he absolutely does not want such a life at all. He rejects all her arguments and then proceeds to meet his death head on like no warrior before or after him. That Karnan cannot move away from the path of his duty even if he will certainly be felled unfairly in the war.

Prior to the start of the war, Lord Krishnar himself implores Karnan not to fight this war, he implores him to lead the Pandavas as the rightful heir, but for Karnan it is again unthinkable to betray his friend Duryodhanan that too at his time of dire need. He tells Krishnar, that he is constrained by his Dharmam, his duty to a friend, to even think about his offer, let alone accept it.

(Side note - One of the reasons I said earlier, I don't believe Karnan's role in the draupadi episode, this could have been added later to the text to justify his death in the war. It cannot be that Lord Krishnar himself implores Karnan to lead the war from his (Dharmam) side and that Vyasar writes so gloriously about Karnan despite "knowing" his role in the draupadi episode - but discussion for another day)

Similarly, after Julius Caesar is unfairly felled, his nephew Octavian gives a similar fiery speech imploring people to fight this injustice, and if they fail to stand now, they would not only have failed the country but themselves and they will not be able to live with that guilt, etc..

So when one read these discourses in your younger years, you are deeply influenced and you become a bit of an idealist (not necessarily bad as with age/time, you will turn realist) and most importantly a liberal upholding values and Dharmam, righteousness, and then you automatically fight on the right side in every situation and instance in life.

This is why you see almost all literary Giants, intellectuals, authors in india and all over the world are all uniformly liberal and oppose every right wing ideology. And you hardly find any literary intellectuals on the right wing side, though you will find a lot of subject experts like economists, tech CEOs, etc..

Hence the deep study of "ancient and medieval" literature or the lack thereof plays a life long role in people's moral alignment, value systems and their political choices in life.


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Standard disclaimer - I have zero tolerance policy for personal attacks, abuses, name calling, crack pot comments. if any, such posts will be responded with disproportionate abuses. So let's keep it civil.

Though only one or two people indulge in such attacks, they end up derailing the entire thread and discussion leading to nasty exchanges Hence this post !

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