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It's time to stop religious dicrimination against hindus when it comes to educational institutions

Jaykay767

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And what is the problem if minorities have their own colleges ?

The majority communites have their own colleges, and preference given to their groups. And as per statistics, Hindus are sociallay more forward, much better educated, better employed in formal sector, compared to Muslims by all statistical surveys.

And we can see ourselves, Hindus dominate in all spheres of our lives. So what are we crooning about how here ?

True Hinduism is Satya meva jayate - truth alone trumps. Let's be salves / Bakths of truth and truth alone !!!
 
The majority communities don't have their own colleges and they can't give preference to their own groups. The only colleges that can give preference to their own groups are religious minority and linguistic minority. Don't blabber about things that you don't know. To boot, these are not even private colleges. They are aided by government. This is basically communal privilege given to muslims, Christians etc from tax payer money. You use Hindus' money and create ghettos from where you launch anti hindu tirades. And a Fiberal has no issue with this..

You guys go to the extent of burning cities and justifying it because you guys claim to uphold secularism. But when it comes to priveleges that you guys enjoy based on religion, secularism does not matter. Write more and get exposed of your hypocrisy...
 
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Jaykay767

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Benares Hindu university - BHU ?

Have you read the articles ? Have you forgotten why the right wing islamophobic students protested the Muslim Sanskrit professor appointment ? Saying only Hindus can be allowed into Bhu ?

What about Manipal group of institutions ?

I mean, I can go on and on...
 
Minorities institution enjoy more from their group and government, but these use other communities tax money too. Have agenda to help needy with out discrimination. All interested in education should have meaningful way to have it. This way we can build uniform values and eradicate illiteracy. Poor people should get support irrespective of caste or creed
 
Don't argue things based on your superficial knowledge. As far as BHU is concerned, The word hindu is in name only. BHU cannot provide any percentage of reservation only to students belonging to hindu religion etc as Jamia or Stephen's or CMC does to its religious groups. BHU follows all the government rules applicable to any college. The only religious exceptions granted are to the colleges run by the six minority religions..

The students of BHU fought against the appointment of one particular faculty in that one particular department because that particular course is about teaching of hindu religion and the expectation is that the teacher is a believer in what he is teaching. They had to fight for it in the first place because there was no protection available to BHU as it is available to Jamia or Stephen's. Jamia, Stephen's funded by govt can give and they do give preference to their own community in both student and faculty admissions. There is no such equivalent facility for hindus.

And this is a matter affecting Indian citizens
But Hindus don't go about burning cities etc. But you guys do so even in the matter of helping persecuted people who are here as refugees. Don't give us your bogus excuses..
 
So institutes such as Jamia, Stephen's, CMC all give preference to their own religious people. This is for both faculty and students. Stephen's says their appointment council will only have members of the Christian religion. Approved by the church. To the fiberals, this is secular.

In BHU no such preference is there. It follows ask the govt rules on non discrimination based in religion etc. The students had issues with the appointment of one person for one particular course because the course is about teaching hindu religious philosophy and the students expect the teacher to be a believer of that religion. And they become islamophobic?

Again write more and get exposed...
 
So institutes such as Jamia, Stephen's, CMC all give preference to their own religious people. This is for both faculty and students. Stephen's says their appointment council will only have members of the Christian religion. Approved by the church. To the fiberals, this is secular.

In BHU no such preference is there. It follows ask the govt rules on non discrimination based in religion etc. The students had issues with the appointment of one person for one particular course because the course is about teaching hindu religious philosophy and the students expect the teacher to be a believer of that religion. And they become islamophobic?

Again write more and get exposed...
In Christian and islamic institutions hindu cannot become principal but in other institutions any one can become . As i am in teaching institution i know about the admission process too. Except minorities no one gets the previlages in their respective institutions. Every institution should have preference to their community in admission, appointment and scholarship atleast 50% and scholarship open to all on merits basis
 
And what is the problem if minorities have their own colleges ?

The majority communites have their own colleges, and preference given to their groups. And as per statistics, Hindus are sociallay more forward, much better educated, better employed in formal sector, compared to Muslims by all statistical surveys.

And we can see ourselves, Hindus dominate in all spheres of our lives. So what are we crooning about how here ?

True Hinduism is Satya meva jayate - truth alone trumps. Let's be salves / Bakths of truth and truth alone !!!
Very few religious minorities treat others with discrimination, even in the case of any mistakes committed. Promotion, seniority too is not fair. Even hospital i see this in admission, rooms allotment etc
 

Jaykay767

Well-known member
Very few religious minorities treat others with discrimination, even in the case of any mistakes committed. Promotion, seniority too is not fair. Even hospital i see this in admission, rooms allotment etc
Please tell me how many minorities are occupying any positions of power in politics, govt bureaucracy, and in corporate businesses and in the startup ecosystems ?

How many (if any) have ever reported to a Muslim manager in any organisation ?

will any Indian Hindu VC fund a Muslim entrepreneur ? I have not seen a single Muslims entrepreneur ever on new pages of businesses others Azim premji in decades.

Let's go by facts and anslyse how and where have Muslims benefited ? None. They have not benefited by any of the so called biased schemes which favour and appease muslims.
 
Another example of gish galloping.

When the thread is about discrimination when it comes to educational institutes for which no refutation is provided, the discussion is shifted to startups, managers in private jobs etc Just stating something like greater than 95% occupied by hindus does not make it true. Where is the data?

The fiberals support vandalisation of the country because they claim to fight for upholding secularism. I point out the important case of discrimination that hindu citizens face - that is of the eligibility to run educational institutions without interference they indulge in gish galloping. This is exactly why these people are called fiberals and sickulars. By secularism what they mean special priveleges for their favored religions. Not equality at all.

The riots started from Jamia, AMU, islamic seminaries etc. These would not have happened if the govt was prudent not to create these kinds of ghettos. We cannot do anything about madrasas etc as they are religious institutes imparting religious education. At least the institutes that impart secular education should be kept out of communal and sectarian divides.
 
Let me also point out here how discriminatory the existing laws are against hindus.

An institution run by minority even if it is imparting secular education has immunity from govt interference even if that institution receives government aid. Basically all these minority enclaves are being created with tax payers money. And they can exercise positive discrimination in favor of their communities.

However when it comes to hindus, even if you start an institution with your own money with no govt aid you cannot give preference to your community. For example you cannot do any positive discrimination in favor of your community. Plus if the govt mandates reservation to muslim/christian OBC you have to provide that..

And it is not just about selection criteria. The govt can keep on adding all sorts of rules and regulations that are by design impossible to follow. This is why all the traditional hindu mission oriented sects are facing enormous pressure in keeping their institutions afloat. Whether it is brahmo samaj, ramakrishna mission, sathya sai institute - all those are facing immense pressure from the fiberals and sickular governments to the extent that they seek minority status to protect their institutions. That is right. The hindu institutions do not want to even call themselves hindus - they want to be called as minorities because that is the only way they can prevent govt interference. Why do you think the lingayats keep fighting to be listed as a religion separate from hindus? The fiberals want us to believ minorities in danger when there is actually so much clamor for minorityism.

The jains run several educational institutions and they had to fight for minority status to get their due. They succeeded. The brahmo swarajs, the sathya sai institutes etc are still fighting. But the pity is all these institutes cannot proudly call themselves as hindus in India. Have you seen this kind of farce anywhere?

Here is another important piece of info. The NCMEI which provides these certificates of whether an institution is minority or not includes, by law, only members of existing minority religions. So a christian or a muslim decides whether to provide this benefit. These are all gifts of the sickular and fiberal governements and they want us to believe that they are not anti-hindu.

BJP in the first term has not corrected all these anomalies. I and a few others have criticized BJP for this. Refer to many of my earlier posts in this forum. BJP in this term seems to start correcting these historical anomalies - starting from 370, CAA etc and there is a chance that they may start treating hindus equally and protect hindu educational institutions. That is also a reason why you see this big backlash from fiberals and sickulars. Nevertheless we keep fighting for our rights and we will do it without rioting and indulging in arson.
 

Jaykay767

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Big bogey of victim hood where none exists. Another geobbels propaganda.

1. Minority institutions existence does not mean, there is discrimination against Hindus. Get a life.

2. Million of Hindu led institutions are providing educstion to hindus. All surveys show Hindus are socially the most forward compared to muslims.

3. Minority institutions helping minorities does NOT mean, this policy is anti Hindu,. How lah ??

5. Hindu insituions facing govt interference - Did you protest when the Tripati Devasahayam shastrigal protested against the NDA govt of interference in temple administrations ? Nope, but you are ever ready to blame falsely Jagan of printing Christian symbols on the ttd tickets. Seriously ??

6. Reservations are constitutionally approved by multiple cabinets. And your great party atleast officially supports it. One of the key point is, even if a Dalit converts to Christianity, he is still discriminated and hence reservation should be provided. Don't convert this into another bogey of interference into Hindu insituions.

And what happens to your akhand Bharat concept where all such converts are essentially hindus.?? Another bogey for convenience ? They are Hindus when you want, otherwise Christians when you don't want ??
 

Jaykay767

Well-known member
In short, look at the bogey of lies - basically the entire lie is that Hindus were discriminated by a liberal secular govt so far in a Hindu majority country, where 95% or more leaders, subordinates in politics, govt and corporate businesses and startups are all Hindus ,

By the way, you don't need any survey to tell you that. People with open mind, can see for thesmsleves, only Hindu leaders everywhere in central govt, state govts, public sectors, corporate businesses, and startups !!

By the way, in the same breath, do you have any surveys which show - how many Muslims have benefitted from these schemes and how many are upwardly mobile, and are occupying leadership positions ??

People with open mind can see, there are no Muslim leaders anywhere in the country in central govt, state govts, public sectors corporate businesses, startups, etc.
 
What a load of crap.. Using tax payers money to create institutions that discriminate people based on religion is not discrimination at all to these fiberals? Why can't you allow hindu institutions with same freedom as well? Why can't you ensure parity in that? You don't do that even fit institutions built on hindus own money.

So these people continue to discriminate hindus who are citizens in this country. But providing succor to persecuted refugees from neighboring countries who happen to be hindus is a no no to them. You guys burn the country for that..


The hindu run institutions do provide reservations as per the govt mandates. The reservation is provided to sc st obc which includes christians, muslims etc. But the jamias, amus, Stephens dont provide any reservation to hindu obcs or even hindu dalits. They strictly provide reservation only to their religious people. This is even if they are aided.

The hindus should carry the burden of muslims, christians etc but you guys don't carry the burden of hindu obcs etc.

Oh what secularism.

Also another gem. According to these fiberals, the sickulars don't discriminate hindus after we clearly show laws, schemes everything that discriminated against us. But according to these same people in islamic countries the muslims are oppressed so we should invite them here.

However hard the fiberals may try, they can't hide their hindu hate..
 

Jaykay767

Well-known member
After spending the last 100 yrs spouting hatred against the Muslims, and Christians, the right wing wants to blame liberals of Hindu hate.

Any so called bogus Hindu discrimination must have facts supoorting it.

Has any Hindu lost out educstion due to this ? NO.

Are Muslims doing better than Hindus socially, financially ? NO

Are Muslims in leadership positions discriminating any Hindus ? NO

Don't bring some bogey of less than 1% minority institutions favouring their communites as anti Hindu.
 
The backwardness of muslim population was not ignored at all. almost all the muslim population are already covered under OBC, SEBC etc etc and are already enjoying all sorts of reservations. Question is why they were also given all the religion based priveleges in addition to the schemes that are normally available for any backward class. Even the dalits don't have any extra privileges that you guys enjoy. The Muslims certainly don't lag SC/STs even based on the highly biased sachar report.. all these are bakwas reasons to make the Hindus, including OBC, SC, ST etc second class in India itself.

A truly secular person will scoff at all the religion based discriminatory schemes. But no. As long as any discrimination benefits Muslims, every thing is great for the sickulars and fiberals.

But in the matter of really oppressed people who are refugees, who have no where to go, these guys become strictly secular. I mean the minorities in India fair much much better than minorities in the Muslim countries. If all these religious discrimination favoring Muslims are acceptable to them here, why burn the country when we recognize that the Hindus in Islamic countries are in much worse position than the Muslims there. The fiberals claim Muslims are equally oppressed like the Hindus are in radical islamic countries. I mean we are talking about the countries specifically created for muslims. There are other minorities in India. It is not as if a Jain country or parsi country or a Buddhist country were created. No integrity at all in the arguments of fiberals..
 

Jaykay767

Well-known member
After Babri demolition, lynchings, gau rakshak vigilantism, engineered riots, let's for godsake NOT keep saying minorities in india fare better than in other countries.

The above are facts - yep has to be unfortunately repeated innumerable times, not someone's opinions

So much for integrity of arguments, not to forget the open hypocrisy !!
 
No one other than paki/jihadi propaganda machines believe that the plight of Hindu minority in pak is better than minorities in India. I mean you guys are terrorizing the world and have the gall to talk about human rights. Do you know that even Afghan and Bangladesh (recently) have better relationships with India than they have with Pak?

Fiberals on even days -Even Muslims are persecuted in Islamic countries so india should provide refuge

Fiberals on odd days - Pak's record on treating minorities better than India..

Anyone can see how stupid these arguments look..
 

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