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I have read this long back and as far as I know this story was circulated to tarnish the name of Indira Gandhi but certain unhappy quarters of the society after the famous entry of the soldiers into a well known temple.

BTW the name Nehru as it is mentioned in the article is derived from the word Nehr which means Canal or Bank of a river.
I have read before that this people of this surname were Brahmins from Kashmir who used to reside by the banks of a river.

So its not as if its some cover up name for a muslim trying to act like a Hindu.

There are other communities like Jaats that come with the surname Nehra which also has the same meaning as Nehr.
And Nehra Jaats are warriors and have ancestry tracing back to the royals of Rajasthan.

So Nehr origin surnames are basically Hindu surnames.

This whole article seems very biased.

Even if its true it won't change my opinion of Indira Gandhi.

She is a person who made India proud.

That's what really matters the most.
 
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Renuka Mam,I really praise all your Posts especially your Reply to this post.I am sure that, The faith you have on," Fake Gandhian Family" is purely because of your Faith on the Nation and not because of the Family.Always " Facts" will be Sour in Taste and Hard to digest. Articles like this will have," weight" at all times if it is not Denied by the Said Family.The very same Matter is also published in this link also.FAKE GANDHI FAMILY IS DESTROYING INDIA & HINDUISM--KNOW THEIR FAMILY HISTORY TO UNDERSTAND WHY !!! | Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam
 
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Renuka Mam,I really praise all your Posts especially your Reply to this post.I am sure that, The faith you have on," Fake Gandhian Family" is purely because of your Faith on the Nation and not because of the Family.Always " Facts" will be Sour in Taste and Hard to digest. Articles like this will have," weight" at all times if it is not Denied by the Said Family.The very same Matter is also published in this link also.FAKE GANDHI FAMILY IS DESTROYING INDIA & HINDUISM--KNOW THEIR FAMILY HISTORY TO UNDERSTAND WHY !!! | Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam

Dear sir,

I have read about this in various forums and in one forum I loved the reply of one guy from Bihar.
There is one harsh word though in his comment.


Re: SEX and LOVE AFFAIRS in Nehru and Gandhi clans...

Who cares of personal life. Nothing changes the fact that Late Indira Gandhi was India's one and only politician with balls made of steel. She was the best prime minister India has ever had ... before and after her sad demise. May her soul rest in peace.

Comment by Badri Prasad,Patna Bihar
SEX and LOVE AFFAIRS in Nehru and Gandhi clans... - eCharcha.Com
 
Dear sir,

I agree that this topic is discussed extensively.But till what extent its true we will never know.
That way even Bill Clinton had a scandalous personal life but as a President he was fine.

Personal life of politicians most of the while are very very controversial but the ones who get caught are the ones who face all the onslaught.

So are we judging a politician based on what he/she can do for the nation or we are judging them solely based on their personal lives?
 
For holding the Leadership of a Party as well as Leadership of a Prestigious Country Character is Very Important.India and Indians always Maintain Characteristic Heroes as Their Rulers . Our Kings were pure and Maintained Law & Order and Honesty in their Kingdom for 1000's of Years.Our Culture and Tradition is Very Prestigious . It has Historical Pride.We were well cultured when compared to any other countries of this world. Nalanda University is 1000's of Years old. At that time almost all countries of this world is Nomadic in Nature.So The Character of Leaders who is about to rule our Country is very important.It is Definitely not a Personal Enmity or an attack against a Particular Family but the Prestige of our Nation lies in the Matter .
 
For holding the Leadership of a Party as well as Leadership of a Prestigious Country Character is Very Important.India and Indians always Maintain Characteristic Heroes as Their Rulers . Our Kings were pure and Maintained Law & Order and Honesty in their Kingdom for 1000's of Years.Our Culture and Tradition is Very Prestigious . It has Historical Pride.We were well cultured when compared to any other countries of this world. Nalanda University is 1000's of Years old. At that time almost all countries of this world is Nomadic in Nature.So The Character of Leaders who is about to rule our Country is very important.It is Definitely not a Personal Enmity or an attack against a Particular Family but the Prestige of our Nation lies in the Matter .

Ok sir fair enough...but going by that story..just say if the allegations about Indira Gandhi are true won't you still respect her as a Mother for the Nation thinking on how much she did for the country and died?

Her last words that every drop of her blood will serve the country became true finally.

What say you sir?
 
First of All the Leader of a Party or a Country Must Love The Nation and must not Loot the Nation.

Bill Clinton and Monica Levensky case is a Personal between the Two. Clinton never Looted America and There were no Looting Charges against him even though 2 presidents came to power and succeed him.

There were no reports about Mr Clinton other than this. As it is the Only Charge against Mr Clinton and may be ignored.

Moreover their culture is totally different. Marriages and Divorces can be performed on the same day. Remarriages also arranged many times.

Tiwari's Matter will become nothing if it happened in other country. But it is Spoken in our Country because Discipline is important in our Country,which gives important to Ancestral Tradition.
 
Sir,

I would ask you a simple question.
Just say a person has to go for surgery.He would surely want to be in the hands of the best surgeon isn't it?
So just say Surgeon A is the best but has a scandalous personal life..would that really matter?
Does it really matter what he does behind close doors as long he excels within the Operation Theater.

So same way I feel as long a politician delivers what he has been voted for.. what he/she does behind close doors is actually immaterial.

Why do we need to get too attached to anyone's personal lives?
 
Greetings.

In my humble opinion, best prime minister India ever had was Narasimha Rao. If not for his finacial policies, India would still be the same old poor country or worst.

Private lives of publec figures are not a concern if the people are not given bogus stories. Starting from Feroze Gandhi, everything was bogus and a lie. The worst ever prime minister India ever had was Jawaharlal. He did not even have a vision for few months ahead. He screwed up the country in more ways than a baboon could manage.

Rajiv married Sonia ( or what ever) in Italy, in a church. Church won't conduct a wedding without conversion to Christianity. I agree, a leader may belong to any religion of his/her choice... but when the truth is hidden from the public, it stinks.

the trouble is, most people know this; but most political 'leaders' are just greedy and selfish in India. India is developing not because of the 'leaders' but inspite of them.

Cheers!
 
Moreover their culture is totally different. Marriages and Divorces can be performed on the same day. Remarriages also arranged many times.

Sir its legally possible to get a divorce after 1 year of filing for divorce in most of the times.
Sometimes its faster.
Yes in the one year awaiting divorce verdict someone can fall in love again and fix for a wedding right after the divorce is granted.

Remarriages are nothing new to us Hindus too.

Remember the story of a married Mayawati who upon hearing that the beautiful child Pradyumna(son of Lord Krishna who was abducted by Sambara)she found when she cut a fish ...was actually the god of love Kama reborn and she was Rati his previous birth wife..she still fell in love with him and married him despite the age difference and the fact that she was married.
 
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இங்கு நம்முடய வாதம் ," இந்த நாட்டின் தலைமைப் பதவிக்கு வருபவரின் (அல்லது) வரப்போகிறவரின் ஒழுக்கம் " பற்றியது.

பல்லாயிரம் ஆண்டுகளாக நம்முடய நாட்டின் கலாச்சாரம்,பெருமை,பாரம்பரியம் உலகரிந்த விஷயம்.நம் நாட்டு மக்களும், நம்மை ஆண்ட மன்னர்களும் தனிமனித ஒழுக்கத்தை தனது வாழ்நாளில் எவ்வாறு கடைப்பிடித்து வந்துள்ளனர் என்பதை அனைவரும் அறிவோம். சமரசம் , சகிப்புத்தன்மைக்கு எடுத்துக்காட்டாக இன்றய தேதியில் நாமும் நம் நாட்டு மக்களும் உலகிற்கே வழிகாட்டுகின்றனர் என்றால் அது மிகை இல்லை.

மதுரையில் நேற்றய பத்திரிகை செய்தி பின்வறுமாறு.....

வேறு வேறு வகுப்புகளில், வேறு வேறு பள்ளிகளில், 12ம் வகுப்பு படிக்கும் ஒரு மாணவனும், மாணவியும் காதலிக்கின்றனர். இதில் மாணவி சற்று மக்கு. 12ம் வகுப்பு தேர்வில் அனைத்து பாடங்களிலும் நீ முட்டை மார்க் வாங்குவாய் என வகுப்பறையில் அனைத்து மாணவர்கள் முன்னிலையில் அந்த மாணவியை ஆசிரியை திட்டுகின்றார். இந்த விஷயத்தை அந்த மாணவி தனது காதலனிடம் சொல்லி அழுகின்றாள். கோபம் கொண்ட அந்த மாணவன் (காதலன்) தனது காதலியிடம் அந்த ஆசிரியையின் புகைப்படத்தைக் கேட்கின்றான். அந்நேரம் பள்ளியில் விடுமுறைச் சுற்றுலா செல்கின்றனர். இதுதான் சமயமென்று அந்த மாணவி சம்பந்தப்பட்ட அந்த ஆசிரியையை தனது செல்போனில் படம்பிடித்து அந்த மாணவனிடத்தில் கொடுக்கின்றாள் காதலி. மாணவன் அந்த ஆசிரியை படத்தை " பேஸ் புக் இணயதளத்தில் " செக்சியாக வெளியிட்டு நான் ஒரு விபச்சாரி என்றும், தேவைப்படுவோர் தொடர்புகொள்ளவும்" என்று வஞ்சம் தீர்த்துகொண்டதோடல்லாமல் ஆசியை செல்போன் நம்பரையும் போட்டுவிட்டான்.

இதுபற்றி ஏதுமறியாத ஆசிரியைக்கு வரிசையாக போங்கால்கள் வர,எரிச்சலைடந்த ஆசிரியைக்கு இணையதள சமாச்சாரம் தெரியவருகின்றது. விளைவு சைபர் கிரைமில் புகார் செய்கின்றார். மாணவன் கைது செய்யப்படுகின்றான்.

இதில் என்ன விசேஷம் என்றால்,இவ்வளவும் நடந்தும் கூட ,நாளிதழ்களில் அந்த ஆசிரியை, மாணவன், மாணவி, மற்றும் பள்ளியின் விபரங்கள் வெளியிடப்படவில்லை. அனைவரின் எதிர்காலமும் பாதிக்கப்படும் என்பதால்.

மானம் மரியாதைக்கு , தர்மம் நியாயத்துக்கும், தெய்வத்துக்கும் மரியாதை கொடுக்கும் கலாச்சாரம் நம் ரத்ததில் காலம் காலமாக ஊரிப்போயுள்ளது.

அப்படிப்பட்ட இத்திருநாட்டில் ஒழுக்கமான தலைவர்கள், நம் நாட்டை நேசிக்கும் தலைவர்கள், மக்களை நேசிக்கும் தலைவர்கள், பெருமைமிக்க இன்னாட்டு கலாச்சாரத்தை நேசிக்கும் தலைவர்கள் ஆள வேண்டும் என்று நினைப்பது மட்டும் எப்படி தவராக இருக்கமுடியும்?.
 
namaste everyone.

Well said, shrI Raghy! "India is developing not because of the 'leaders' but inspite of them." Now, Indian needs to develop "in full spite of our corrupt leaders", bringing them to the people's court.

Let us not forget the PANDiyan king NeDunjchezhiyan who died instantly when KaNNaki proved her husband Kovalan's innocence:
யானோ அரசன்? யானே கள்வன்!

The person motto of today's leaders could well be:
யானே அரசன், யானே கள்வன்!
 
Many might have read so many bad sides of leaders, humans are particularly curious to know them as good things they can get from Vedas. Mr John Mathai, Mr Nehru’s PA, has also contributed to the public knowledge. I think even Gandhiji was not left out nor Rajaji. Of course I have not read about the recent bachelors! So I thought it not necessary to taste the old wine in a new bottle (the link). Neither I would say they are lies. Could best be or otherwise an attempt to connect the shaven head to a knee cap.

If character is the only criteria for leadership in today’s world, how about a wrong man ascending to a religious mutt throne. Character is essential so that a person does not become tyrant. A king is not a religious leader but a leader to look after the well-being of his countrymen.

One can talk about a myriad of world leaders who had things to hide or could not hide things. But nobody held a position as important as Nehru’s in a independent New India. It was just a starting period of scientific world. Gandhiji gave morality its prominence but Nehru gave the impetus to develop India to fit into modern world. Given to himself, Gandhiji would have offered “Charka” to millions of our countrymen, but Nehru gave the foundation for today’s India, like infrastructure, dams and reservoirs, ordnance factories and numerous production facilities including atomic energy and the like. He was single-handed policy maker for development and others dutifully carried out his visions. India is proud of today’s wealth which Nehru created. To deny this is trying to be unfair to one’s ownself. He was not flawless. God never would create a flawless man. He had bungled in Kashmir problem, humanitarian attitude showed him a man biased towards Muslims. He failed to read Chinese. Nothing grows under a banyan tree. But weeds did grow. He failed to know the sycophants and the corrupt. But those who have not read his books, can accuse him of anything. In the development period, TN stood first, then came Maharashtra, Punjab, etc. The regions wherefrom BJP originated did not develop at all and the people had to migrate to Punjab, Maharashtra, TN, etc. The arguments can go on between actual fairness and to imagined unfairness.

The BJP’s PM, ABV was Nehru’s pick. I think Vajpayee would reject all accusations of Nehru. It was a fashion to criticize Nehru when he was alive and it has now become a religion for some.

Talking of Indira Gandhi, I will quote Frank Moraes who said “ She was the only man in the Cabinet”. She succeeded where Nehru had no opportunity, to prove the world that India is a country to be reckoned with. She was too hot for local leaders as well as world leaders so much so that she was eliminated early. To talk ill of her achievements is just a case of anti-feminism. Nobody talks of Sanjay Gandhi who became instantly popular as I think he was hotter than IG and would have put BJP into shame. Then came unwilling Rajiv Gandhi to whom we owe our pre-eminence in computer and cyberworld. I think the genes became weak with Rajiv Gandhi’s birth. He made a blunder in choosing his life partner and we have the result and anarchy.

Nobody elects Kings or leaders. They elect themselves. All Kings have erred from Rama, Yudhishtra, Duryodana, Kamsa, Ravana, and so on and so forth. Rama Rajya was different from Mahabharath. Yathha Praja thathha Sanskriti. When the foundation has been laid, it is easy to strengthen. Nobody can deny that it was the govt which gave the impetus after 1947. Of course, it was a government of our own people and headed by a man who was in great hurry to be on par with the world. Gujarat was there after 1962 or about. Industry had been growing there since then but only Modi is given credit today. It is 50% propaganda and 50% development. And more than half of Gujarat is outside the State. But let me say lest readers should misunderstand me, that I am neither a supporter of Congress nor of BJP or any other party. In an argument of any kind, it should be fair to talk of positive and negative or if you can chose so first negative and then positive.

Talking of dynasty, every leader of every state has been bitten by the disease. There was no dynastic descend from Nehru to Indira. Subsequent happenings occurred perhaps in confusion. Why not for a change attack the current flock of dynastic tendencies and thwart them.
 
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Sir,
I read the blog written about Gandhi-Nehru family.It is immaterial whether they were muslims christians or hindus.Let us not forget it was Nehru due to his statesmanship made india a strong, technologically sound nation. Followed by mrs. gandhi who took a stand against the americans and proved our strength.
Let us not forget that we worship thulaka nachiyar and vabar samy.Let us be broadminded and worry bout our future than about the past.
 
Many might have read so many bad sides of leaders, humans are particularly curious to know them as good things they can get from Vedas. Mr John Mathai, Mr Nehru’s PA, has also contributed to the public knowledge. I think even Gandhiji was not left out nor Rajaji. Of course I have not read about the recent bachelors! So I thought it not necessary to taste the old wine in a new bottle (the link). Neither I would say they are lies. Could best be or otherwise an attempt to connect the shaven head to a knee cap.

If character is the only criteria for leadership in today’s world, how about a wrong man ascending to a religious mutt throne. Character is essential so that a person does not become tyrant. A king is not a religious leader but a leader to look after the well-being of his countrymen.

One can talk about a myriad of world leaders who had things to hide or could not hide things. But nobody held a position as important as Nehru’s in a independent New India. It was just a starting period of scientific world. Gandhiji gave morality its prominence but Nehru gave the impetus to develop India to fit into modern world. Given to himself, Gandhiji would have offered “Charka” to millions of our countrymen, but Nehru gave the foundation for today’s India, like infrastructure, dams and reservoirs, ordnance factories and numerous production facilities including atomic energy and the like. He was single-handed policy maker for development and others dutifully carried out his visions. India is proud of today’s wealth which Nehru created. To deny this is trying to be unfair to one’s ownself. He was not flawless. God never would create a flawless man. He had bungled in Kashmir problem, humanitarian attitude showed him a man biased towards Muslims. He failed to read Chinese. Nothing grows under a banyan tree. But weeds did grow. He failed to know the sycophants and the corrupt. But those who have not read his books, can accuse him of anything. In the development period, TN stood first, then came Maharashtra, Punjab, etc. The regions wherefrom BJP originated did not develop at all and the people had to migrate to Punjab, Maharashtra, TN, etc. The arguments can go on between actual fairness and to imagined unfairness.

The BJP’s PM, ABV was Nehru’s pick. I think Vajpayee would reject all accusations of Nehru. It was a fashion to criticize Nehru when he was alive and it has now become a religion for some.

Talking of Indira Gandhi, I will quote Frank Moraes who said “ She was the only man in the Cabinet”. She succeeded where Nehru had no opportunity, to prove the world that India is a country to be reckoned with. She was too hot for local leaders as well as world leaders so much so that she was eliminated early. To talk ill of her achievements is just a case of anti-feminism. Nobody talks of Sanjay Gandhi who became instantly popular as I think he was hotter than IG and would have put BJP into shame. Then came unwilling Rajiv Gandhi to whom we owe our pre-eminence in computer and cyberworld. I think the genes became weak with Rajiv Gandhi’s birth. He made a blunder in choosing his life partner and we have the result and anarchy.

Nobody elects Kings or leaders. They elect themselves. All Kings have erred from Rama, Yudhishtra, Duryodana, Kamsa, Ravana, and so on and so forth. Rama Rajya was different from Mahabharath. Yathha Praja thathha Sanskriti. When the foundation has been laid, it is easy to strengthen. Nobody can deny that it was the govt which gave the impetus after 1947. Of course, it was a government of our own people and headed by a man who was in great hurry to be on par with the world. Gujarat was there after 1962 or about. Industry had been growing there since then but only Modi is given credit today. It is 50% propaganda and 50% development. And more than half of Gujarat is outside the State. But let me say lest readers should misunderstand me, that I am neither a supporter of Congress nor of BJP or any other party. In an argument of any kind, it should be fair to talk of positive and negative or if you can chose so first negative and then positive.

Talking of dynasty, every leader of every state has been bitten by the disease. There was no dynastic descend from Nehru to Indira. Subsequent happenings occurred perhaps in confusion. Why not for a change attack the current flock of dynastic tendencies and thwart them.

Good point Iyya.
Mr. Shankar probably can not do 0.00001% of the service done by Mr. Nehru to India and still talks ill of Mr. Nehru.
 
Sir,
I read the blog written about Gandhi-Nehru family.It is immaterial whether they were muslims christians or hindus.Let us not forget it was Nehru due to his statesmanship made india a strong, technologically sound nation. Followed by mrs. gandhi who took a stand against the americans and proved our strength.
Let us not forget that we worship thulaka nachiyar and vabar samy.Let us be broadminded and worry bout our future than about the past.

In America they talk reverently of their leaders, In India a life time of selfless service is ignored by people like Mr. Shankar Narayan. It is digrace.
 
Goodpoint Iyya.
Mr. Shankar probably can not do 0.00001% of the service done by Mr. Nehru toIndia and still talks ill of Mr. Nehru.
There is absolutely no comparison between those two. Comparing a hill to the Himalayas. At the hill level, you would be competing with him in stature unless you wean away from obsessing about Mr.Shankar and his idiosyncracies.

In America they talk reverently of their leaders, In India a life time of selflessservice is ignored by people like Mr. Shankar Narayan. It is digrace.
You haven’t read the reports about how the TSA (Transport Security Agency) in USA treated Edward Kennedy or Henry Kissinger or Al Gore ( just to name a few of the “revered” leaders of America) at the airport security check point. In America there is no sacred cow, they don’t “revere” their leaders. They also don’t believe that a revered leader’s family should have a perpetual hold or eternal proprietary entitlement to leadership. Selfless service from Nehru and Indira Gandhi, yes agreed, but that kind of selflessness is not a genetic trait that gets passed on within the same family from generation to generation for eternity, to give rise to a virtual super-super-caste of one and the same family

I think this is probably the message your “Mr. Shankar” is trying to get across, albeit in an uncouth, unrefined way. Nevertheless, it does not hurt to offer him the courtesy of being addressed as “Sir” or “Ji” . That is what we in India do.
 
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There is absolutely no comparison between those two. Comparing a hill to the Himalayas. At the hill level, you would be competing with him in stature unless you wean away from obsessing about Mr.Shankar and his idiosyncracies.

You haven’t read the reports about how the TSA (Transport Security Agency) in USA treated Edward Kennedy or Henry Kissinger or Al Gore ( just to name a few of the “revered” leaders of America) at the airport security check point. In America there is no sacred cow, they don’t “revere” their leaders. They also don’t believe that a revered leader’s family should have a perpetual hold or eternal proprietary entitlement to leadership. Selfless service from Nehru and Indira Gandhi, yes agreed, but that kind of selflessness is not a genetic trait that gets passed on within the same family from generation to generation for eternity, to give rise to a virtual super-super-caste of one and the same family

I think this is probably the message your “Mr. Shankar” is trying to get across, albeit in an uncouth, unrefined way. Nevertheless, it does not hurt to offer him the courtesy of being addressed as “Sir” or “Ji” . That is what we in India do.

Mr. Naina sirji,
I was very polite and addressed him as Mr. Shankar.
When I was taking of reverence in America, I was talking of George Washington, not the political leader of the day.
Mr. Shankar maharaji sir his holiness 108 is basically ranting about same old drudged and trumped up charges. I concede that this is his post and he has absolutely every right to say what ever he wants to say. I am more concerned where he steals the post and rants totally nonsense unrelated to the post.

I have no argument with you.
 
Mr. Naina sirji,
I was very polite and addressed him as Mr. Shankar.
When I was taking of reverence in America, I was talking of George Washington, not the political leader of the day.
Mr. Shankar maharaji sir his holiness 108 is basically ranting about same old drudged and trumped up charges. I concede that this is his post and he has absolutely every right to say what ever he wants to say. I am more concerned where he steals the post and rants totally nonsense unrelated to the post.

I have no argument with you.

Equivalent to George Washington is India’s own Mahatma Gandhi, and he is still a revered figure in India. And maharaji is an appellation for women. And don't combine Mr with sirji.
 
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India is gandhis family and gandhis family

Congress MPs of maharashtra now want to name mumbai central station after rajiv gandhi. The bandra worli sea link was named after rajiv gandhi on the spur of the moment on stage without any discussion or consultation. If this is not sycophancy what is the other name for it.

If the names of private trusts promoted and owned by gandhi loyalists with government money, the family may have a bigger share of national wealth both in cash and in registered names. In a CNN IBN tv discussion on corruption, when a panelist started reference to soniaji's activities, she was cut short and told not to raise allegations. Since CBI or any other government investigation agency will not initiate or pursue, these will remain as allegations only. Swamy believes that supreme court will one day order CBI to investigate as in the case of telescam raja and hopefully chidambaram. There is no explanation why robert vadera does not need security check at the airports. The govt. has started blocking web sites sonia gandhi; one has to be careful with the language and choice of words.

From the horse's mouth - minister of state, planning commission

New Delhi: More than a quarter of the government schemes named after eminent personalities are in the name of late Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi.


Government runs 58 schemes named after eminent people as per the Planning Commission data, Minister of State for Planning Ashwani Kumar said in a written reply to the Lok Sabha.

Of these, 16 schemes are in the name of Rajiv Gandhi, he said citing the data.

Rajiv Awaas Yojana, Rajiv Gandhi Udyami Mitra Yojana, Rajiv Gandhi Panchayat Shashaktikaran Abhiyan, Rajiv Gandhi Grameen Vidyutikaran Yojana, Rajiv Gandhi National Fellowships for ST students, are among few of the schemes named after him.

Besides, as many as eight schemes have the name of Indira Gandhi. Indira Gandhi Matritva Sahyog Yojana, Indira Awaas Yojana, Indira Gandhi National Old Age Pension Scheme are some of schemes named after her.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/delhi/16-govt-schemes-named-after-rajiv-gandhi_774279.html
 
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