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Disussion about vasu, Rudra and Aaditya roopa of our ancestors

Namaskaram to all the memebers in the thread and my humble request to all is, kindly clarify the below questions which is my long term un answered question.
In our pitru kaaryas, we refer to the deceased father as ‘Vasu roopa’, grandfather as ‘Rudra roopa’ and great grandfather as ‘Aaditya roopa’. What is the significance of these?
How long do the departed souls reside in the pitru loka before they return on rebirth?
When some one from the present generation leaves the earth apparently the departed soul becomes ‘Vasu’, his father becomes ‘Rudra’ and grandfather ‘Rudra’ becomes ‘Aaditya’ for the departed person’s son. What will happen to the great grandfather who was previously in the state of ‘Aaditya roopa’?
When a paternal uncle and nephew do these karmas the same departed soul ( grandfather of the nephew and father of the uncle) will be ‘Vasu roopa’ for the uncle and ‘Rudra roopa’ for the nephew. How the same soul can be in two forms at the same time?
 

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Namaskaram to all the memebers in the thread and my humble request to all is, kindly clarify the below questions which is my long term un answered question.
In our pitru kaaryas, we refer to the deceased father as ‘Vasu roopa’, grandfather as ‘Rudra roopa’ and great grandfather as ‘Aaditya roopa’. What is the significance of these?
How long do the departed souls reside in the pitru loka before they return on rebirth?
When some one from the present generation leaves the earth apparently the departed soul becomes ‘Vasu’, his father becomes ‘Rudra’ and grandfather ‘Rudra’ becomes ‘Aaditya’ for the departed person’s son. What will happen to the great grandfather who was previously in the state of ‘Aaditya roopa’?
When a paternal uncle and nephew do these karmas the same departed soul ( grandfather of the nephew and father of the uncle) will be ‘Vasu roopa’ for the uncle and ‘Rudra roopa’ for the nephew. How the same soul can be in two forms at the same time?
hi

nice topic....i was thinking the same topic very long time....my best knowledge....there are 2 theories of

soul departure/rebirth....one based on UPANISHADS....2nd one based on GARUDA PURANAM....based

on upanishads...soul get another sariram immediately...even bhagavad gita says....VASAMSI

SARIRANI....IN 2ND CHAPTER GITA....so soul takes another physical body immediately....but puranas...


the soul travels to yamaloka ..then pitru loka.....then after one year....it takes another SARIRAM.... so even

sometimes very confused ....some scholars can explain much more in detail...even i studied

upanishad/bhagavad gita and GARUDA PURANAM TOO.....
 
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hi

nice topic....i was thinking the same topic very long time....my best knowledge....there are 2 theories of

soul departure/rebirth....one based on UPANISHADS....2nd one based on GARUDA PURANAM....based

on upanishads...soul get another sariram immediately...even bhagavad gita says....VASAMSI

SARIRANI....IN 2ND CHAPTER GITA....so soul takes another physical body immediately....but puranas...


the soul travels to yamaloka ..then pitru loka.....then after one year....it takes another SARIRAM.... so even

sometimes very confused ....some scholars can explain much more in detail...even i studied

upanishad/bhagavad gita and GARUDA PURANAM TOO.....
Kindly anyone can clarify it as per the veda
 
Namaskaram to all the memebers in the thread and my humble request to all is, kindly clarify the below questions which is my long term un answered question.
In our pitru kaaryas, we refer to the deceased father as ‘Vasu roopa’, grandfather as ‘Rudra roopa’ and great grandfather as ‘Aaditya roopa’. What is the significance of these?
How long do the departed souls reside in the pitru loka before they return on rebirth?
When some one from the present generation leaves the earth apparently the departed soul becomes ‘Vasu’, his father becomes ‘Rudra’ and grandfather ‘Rudra’ becomes ‘Aaditya’ for the departed person’s son. What will happen to the great grandfather who was previously in the state of ‘Aaditya roopa’?
When a paternal uncle and nephew do these karmas the same departed soul ( grandfather of the nephew and father of the uncle) will be ‘Vasu roopa’ for the uncle and ‘Rudra roopa’ for the nephew. How the same soul can be in two forms at the same time?
We do not offer the food, sesame seeds, and water directly to our ancestors. We do it through the devathas/gods called as vasu, rudra, and aadithya. They transform what you offer in a meaningful way to the appropriate ancestor according to the place/state the ancestor is in. Eg: a ancestor in punya loka will have different needs than the ones who is in paapa loka/narakam. An ancestor who is born again will have quite a different need like food, shelter, clothes, etc.

In the situation you mentioned -what will happen t great grandfather after the current generation person is dead - the state will have to remain the same as aadithya will be handling things over to the grandfather now for the offerings by great grandson. The great grandfather will receive the benefits so long as at least one great grandson is alive and offers the tharpanam and shraddham.

Each person alive should therefore do all the duties so he can give the punya and benefit to his ancestors till he is alive. This is a great and easy way to help our ancestors attain moksha, too.

There is no fixed time limit for rebirth. It will be vary for each soul based on the karma and the results deserved.
 
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