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'Disparaging' comments against Brahmins: Maharashtra Minister Kamble appologises.

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May be that Brahmins also needs to be protected against such atrocities like the other minority communities.


Maharashtra Minister Dilip Kamble Apologises For His 'Disparaging' Comments Against Brahmins

'His remarks should be taken in the spirit of Holi'.


MUMBAI -- Maharashtra Minister of State for Social Justice Dilip Kamble today tendered apology after his remarks referring to Brahmins triggered a controversy.

"Am I a Brahmin to be afraid," Kamble had said at a public event at Latur yesterday.
He was talking about the "middlemen" who he alleged were ganging up against him as he had stopped their malpractices.

"I am a Dalit. Am I a Brahmin to be afraid (of middlemen)," Kamble had said.

Labour Minister Sambhaji Patil-Nilangekar, who was present at the function, played down the remarks, saying

"Today is Holi and his remarks should be taken in spirit of Holi."

However, following uproar on social media, Kamble today apologised. "If anyone's feelings have been hurt, I tender an apology," he said.

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2017/0...r-dilip-kamble-apologises-for-his-disparagin/
 
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Atleast in Maharashtra Brahmins are fighting for their rights..In TN our community have given up their rights..Being vilified, disparaged on a daily basis by some group or other
 
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Atleast in Maharashtra Brahmins are fighting for their rights..In TN our community have given up their rights..Being vilified, disparaged on a daily basis by some group or other


V Ganesh Ji,

Can one compare Tamil Nadu with Maharastra, especially in the context of population, political back ground, influence of BIG RIVER on Dravidian parties, more especially the evils of the past..etc

And is it right to say that we have given up our fighting? :)
 
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Atleast in Maharashtra Brahmins are fighting for their rights..In TN our community have given up their rights..Being vilified, disparaged on a daily basis by some group or other

But TN has RUDHRAN!

Why fear?LOL
 

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V Ganesh Ji,

Can one compare Tamil Nadu with Maharastra, especially in the context of population, political back ground, influence of BIG RIVER on Dravidian parties, etc

And is it right to say that we have given up our fighting? :)

Dear Rudhran Ji,

I will give you a new name for The Big River..but its in Arabic...no one would know who you are talking about!LOL

An-Nahr Kabir.
 
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I am just a trainee.........I have been seeing veterans in this Forum

My Guru has taken her own time in opening up this Chapter of 'Encounter' to me belatedly..

Credit goes to my Guru Madam who wanted me to keep the 'FORCE' at any cost. LOL
 

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Among other things, Tamilians ensured that we had a Brahmin Chief Minister for nearly four or five terms ruling the Government of Tamil Nadu which speaks volume…

This was the ground reality.....

How Jayalalithaa broke Dravida politics rules and conventions to lead Tamil Nadu


Tamil Nadu chief minister Jayaraman Jayalalithaa broke every major rule of the very Dravida movement that shaped her political career, even as she honourably led a powerful party born from the movement. The reasons lie in her extraordinary ability to connect with poor voters and administrative bureaucrats alike and tapping deeper elements of a social psyche, while keeping everyone else guessing on her next move — especially leaders of her own All-India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (AIADMK), the media and above all, her bitter rival Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) and its leader, Muthuvel Karunanidhi.

In Sanskrit, the name Jayalalithaa can be translated as "the playfully victorious one." True to her character, she kept everyone guessing from her bed at the Apollo Hospital in Chennai until the last moment. True to her character, she fought with every breath before passing away. By the conventional rules of Tamil Nadu and indeed, Indian politics, Jayalalithaa was up against three major forces: Male dominance, anti-Brahmin sentiment and rationalist thought. She pooh-poohed them all in her political moves.

Source: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/h...d-conventions-to-lead-tamil-nadu-3141536.html
 
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Dear Rudhran Ji,

I will give you a new name for The Big River..but its in Arabic...no one would know who you are talking about!LOL

An-Nahr Kabir.
Nahar stands for river in hindi also.Nehru family used to live on banks of river ,hence their surname.

Kabir was a sufi poet-Who is not familiar with kabirs verses.called dohe.
 

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Nahar stands for river in hindi also.Nehru family used to live on banks of river ,hence their surname.

Kabir was a sufi poet-Who is not familiar with kabirs verses.called dohe.

Nahr word is from Arabic cos its not found in Sanskrit...Many Hindi/Urdu words are from Arabic and Persian..

Nahr has no Sanskrit origins .so why would a Kashmiri Pandit have an Arabic name like Nahr?
 

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Nahr word is from Arabic cos its not found in Sanskrit...Many Hindi/Urdu words are from Arabic and Persian..

Nahr has no Sanskrit origins .so why would a Kashmiri Pandit have an Arabic name like Nahr?
All J.Nehrus relatives are kauls.Motilal nehru adopted the nehru surname because of location of his house on banks of a river
 

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All J.Nehrus relatives are kauls.Motilal nehru adopted the nehru surname because of location of his house on banks of a river

What came in the middle disappeared too in the middle quickly. After Jawaharlal there is no Nehru around in that family. Instead the Parsi Gandhi came and attached itself to the family. Originally this gandhi was a appendage because the Feroze who brought it with him was a seller of scents-a gandhi. But it caught the imagination of political manipulators and the name started claiming the legacy of Mahatma because the name was rhyming. Otherwise there was nothing geneologically common between the Kashmiri Pandit and the Gujarathi vaishnav bania.
 
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Well தமிழ் வேதம் is quite at peace with Dravidam!

https://youtu.be/DLu1P5OnygI

https://youtu.be/qBYvAgZqKUE

Kamal Haasan commenting on Mahabharata.......From S.Swamy he has turned his Gun towards Hindu epic.


Who is he to talk about Mahabharata?’: Hindu group files complaint against Kamal Haasan

Members of the Hindu Makkal Katchi (HMK) have lodged a police complaint against actor Kamal Haasan, accusing him of making derogatory remarks against Hindus.

On Wednesday, members of the party submitted the complaint at the Chennai City Police Commissionerate, The Hindu reported.

In a recent interview to a Tamil channel, Haasan, while referring to Mahabharata, reportedly said that a woman is gambled away in the epic and that India honours such a book.

Speaking to The News Minute, Rama Ravikumar, state Secretary of HMK, called the actor “anti-Hindu” and said that his comments have hurt their religious sentiments.

“Kamal Haasan said that Mahabharata talks about a woman (Draupadi) who was used as a pawn and was gambled away, and that this country reads such a book. There was no need for him to say these things. It has hurt our sentiments and who is he to talk about the Mahabharata?” he asked.

He continued, “Will he ever speak against the Quran or the Bible like this? When Vishwaroopam released, Muslims (several groups) had protested against the movie (for allegedly depicting the community in a negative light). He had then said that there is no safety in this state, and that he should go somewhere else and live.”

Rama said that Kamal should not be speaking against a book which is read and believed by so many people.

“He does not have the guts to talk against any other religion. He is an anti-Hindu person, so we complained against him. If he talks against the Quran or the Bible, the minorities will protest and create a problem for him. We have been suffering for long but haven’t been saying anything.


Source: http://globalpress.hinduismnow.org/...u-group-files-complaint-against-kamal-haasan/
 
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It is said that Dravidians can live on such Dravidian soil is narrow-mindedness, the broad prospective is Dravidian can live here and so too Aryan, Christians and Muslims….



The anti-Brahminical hate narrative in Tamil Nadu- Is it warranted?




“Dravidianism succeeded politically, but I don’t agree that Brahmins are under some sort of stress or economic subjugation,” says MR Venkatesh, a notable Chartered Accountant and columnist based in Chennai. “At the ground level, there has not been much impact. Certain branches have been left out by the community, but the reel has come full circle, we have moved on to other things,” he says, refusing to accept that Brahmins were not given an equal opportunity in the education sector. But what started out as a clarion call to end the repulsive system of caste soon transformed into a self-serving movement to usurp political power. As PratapBhanu Mehta says in his seminal 2003 essay, The Burden of Democracy, “…we have arguably never had anti-caste politics. What we have witnessed in the decades since Independence is anti-upper caste politics.” In fact, Dravidian politics further faltered by failing some of its own stalwarts who had realized that the movement was headed in the wrong direction.

In 1949, when CN Annadurai decided to break away from the Dravidar Kazhagam to form the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam, he explained to his comrades that the party could no longer just represent the Dravidian castes, but also Brahmins, Muslims and Christians who live in Tamil Nadu. Anna vouched for an inclusive brand of politics. As he explained the choice of the party’s name, he told his followers,“When we say DravidarMunnetraKazhagam (instead of DravidaMunnetraKazhagam), it introduces the prohibition that only Dravidians can be its members… To add the proviso that only Dravidians can live on such a Dravidian soil in narrow-mindedness… We should work with the broad perspective that Dravidam can live here and so too Aryan, Christians and Muslims… Unlike the DravidarKazhagam, which fought only for racial welfare, we have to struggle on the basis of geography for the good of the entire ‘Dravidam’." (Translations from Anna: The Life and Times of CN Annadurai, by R Kannan)

This idealism which once symbolized the Dravidian movement is now in shambles. DMK Chief Karunanidhi continues to propagate a narrative of hatred against Brahmins, which is often laughable. The DMK supremo has blamed the 'threaded brahminical class' for his loss in elections, the fallout of the 2g scam and even the allegations of the stronghold his family over Tamil film industry. At the same time, the party has continued to pay lip-service to the Dalits even as tensions simmer between the Dalits and OBCs. With the upper caste deserting the Tamil community for fancy careers abroad, and the Dalits still facing severe oppression by the all-powerful and politically strong OBC communities, it is upon the existing Dravidian political class to pay heed to the words of Anna and create an inclusive political climate in the state. Who know, a new, inclusive brand of Dravidian politics which respects caste-minorities could even show the DMK a way out of it's present quandry. The elite Brahmins have no reason to claim victimhood in the state economically. Socially, however discrimination remains as much for the lower downtrodden as it does for the upper so-called ‘elite’. Taking into consideration the wrestle of power between themselves, the OBCs and the Dalits, there is a large shift in caste-dynamics slowly making its presence felt in society. Tweet

Source: http://www.thenewsminute.com/tamils/412
 
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vgane

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Among other things, Tamilians ensured that we had a Brahmin Chief Minister for nearly four or five terms ruling the Government of Tamil Nadu which speaks volume…

This was the ground reality.....

How Jayalalithaa broke Dravida politics rules and conventions to lead Tamil Nadu


Tamil Nadu chief minister Jayaraman Jayalalithaa broke every major rule of the very Dravida movement that shaped her political career, even as she honourably led a powerful party born from the movement. The reasons lie in her extraordinary ability to connect with poor voters and administrative bureaucrats alike and tapping deeper elements of a social psyche, while keeping everyone else guessing on her next move — especially leaders of her own All-India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (AIADMK), the media and above all, her bitter rival Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) and its leader, Muthuvel Karunanidhi.

In Sanskrit, the name Jayalalithaa can be translated as "the playfully victorious one." True to her character, she kept everyone guessing from her bed at the Apollo Hospital in Chennai until the last moment. True to her character, she fought with every breath before passing away. By the conventional rules of Tamil Nadu and indeed, Indian politics, Jayalalithaa was up against three major forces: Male dominance, anti-Brahmin sentiment and rationalist thought. She pooh-poohed them all in her political moves.

Source: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/h...d-conventions-to-lead-tamil-nadu-3141536.html

Yes JJ aura was there...Only in TN (among the Southern States) we had a Brahmin CM for 17 years in the last 65 years...She was a devout Hindu..That was the only plus point for the Tambra...Rest, in terms of education or employment there were no gains or losses..Our community is now going down the drain because of loss of identity & IC/IR marriages
 

Janaki Jambunathan

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Nahr word is from Arabic cos its not found in Sanskrit...Many Hindi/Urdu words are from Arabic and Persian..

Nahr has no Sanskrit origins .so why would a Kashmiri Pandit have an Arabic name like Nahr?

How about the word Hindu - origin River Sindhu or Arabic?
 
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