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'We' are the Veda..

In the million years earth has held sway
So many beings have come and gone away
Like the train of thoughts in your brain
Matter and Beings appear, vanish in vain


Does a thought try to understand the brain..?
They appear, interact and disappear again..
If Universe is brain; ‘beings’ are just another thought
The ‘I’, ‘You’, ‘Us’, ‘them’ exist not


A body, brain, heart all its thoughts and actions
Are just Universe’s knowledge tiny fractions
A tiny knowledge fraction may aspire the whole
Even infinite expansion reaches not the goal


Like thoughts resonate, evolve a rhyme
We, the knowledge fractions, grow over time
Grow the fractions; Forget the ‘whole’
Brahman is the ‘path’ to Atman, the Soul..


A body that knows the ‘brahman’ in it
Evolves its knowledge bit by bit..
Yes, fractions can never reach the whole
Let increasing knowledge be our goal..


-TBT
 
In the million years earth has held sway
So many beings have come and gone away
Like the train of thoughts in your brain
Matter and Beings appear, vanish in vain


Does a thought try to understand the brain..?
They appear, interact and disappear again..
If Universe is brain; ‘beings’ are just another thought
The ‘I’, ‘You’, ‘Us’, ‘them’ exist not


A body, brain, heart all its thoughts and actions
Are just Universe’s knowledge tiny fractions
A tiny knowledge fraction may aspire the whole
Even infinite expansion reaches not the goal


Like thoughts resonate, evolve a rhyme
We, the knowledge fractions, grow over time
Grow the fractions; Forget the ‘whole’
Brahman is the ‘path’ to Atman, the Soul..


A body that knows the ‘brahman’ in it
Evolves its knowledge bit by bit..
Yes, fractions can never reach the whole
Let increasing knowledge be our goal..


-TBT

What if everything is a dream of a Cosmic Being?
When the dream ends does everything exists?

Does dreamer too exists?

Does the dreamer even remember the dream?
Does the dreamer know or He knows not?
So if we are Veda or Not..does anyone actually know?

There is no affirmation finally..there is only negation.

One who is in love says " I only love you and no other"

Philosophy says..Brahman is One without a Second.

Some others say..There is No God but Allah.

Everyone negates?

Why?

Becos..finally no one knows enough to affirm anything.

Did I get it right?

Neti Neti is the best disclaimer.
 
If you believe Mandukya Upanishad and my understanding of it, then Yes, the Atman dreams.

The deep sleep state without dreams is the world of Quantum (ekibhuta prajna), when dreams happen it is emergence of classicality (antaH-prajnA), the waking up state is the Classical thermodynamics Universe (bAhis-prajnA) in which the beings evolve.

Beyond all the three is the turiya, the fourth stage, which is the vacuum in which background quantum oscillations exist (sarva-jna).

The bAhis-prajnA is the world of sthula (gross).
The antaH-prajnA is the world of taijasa (energy in which different matter forms emerge).
The ekibhuta-prajna is the world in which the matter is Unified.

This is what I detailed here..

http://vedabhasya.blogspot.com/2018/10/an-analysis-of-sabda-and-vak-part-6.html

-TBT
 
If you believe Mandukya Upanishad and my understanding of it, then Yes, the Atman dreams.

The deep sleep state without dreams is the world of Quantum (ekibhuta prajna), when dreams happen it is emergence of classicality (antaH-prajnA), the waking up state is the Classical thermodynamics Universe (bAhis-prajnA) in which the beings evolve.

Beyond all the three is the turiya, the fourth stage, which is the vacuum in which background quantum oscillations exist (sarva-jna).

The bAhis-prajnA is the world of sthula (gross).
The antaH-prajnA is the world of taijasa (energy in which different matter forms emerge).
The ekibhuta-prajna is the world in which the matter is Unified.

This is what I detailed here..

http://vedabhasya.blogspot.com/2018/10/an-analysis-of-sabda-and-vak-part-6.html

-TBT

Nowadays I dont believe anything...
Spent my whole life believing text books...time for me to give my brain a rest and stop wondering.

Somehow Vaishnavas have a better time..they dont " think" as much! LOL

But I have no plans to switch over to Vaishnavaism cos that calls for a lot of blind faith like Abrahamic religions.

Advaita/ Vedanta uses up a lot of substrate in the brain talking about things which finally comes down to a point where we know nothing.

Shaktaism is cultish..mantra..tantra..yantra.

Shaivaism is very Agama based though the plus point is Shiva is sexy!

Seriously there is nothing much left for a human..so all I can do is just simply exist before life ends.

Ignorance is finally my blissful calling.
 
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Nowadays I dont believe anything...
Spent my whole life believing text books...time for me to give my brain a rest and stop wondering.

Somehow Vaishnavas have a better time..they dont " think" as much! LOL

But I have no plans to switch over to Vaishnavaism cos that calls for a lot of blind faith like Abrahamic religions.

Advaita/ Vedanta uses up a lot of substrate in the brain talking about things which finally comes down to a point where we know nothing.

Shaktaism is cultish..mantra..tantra..yantra.

Shaivaism is very Agama based though the plus point is Shiva is sexy!

Seriously there is nothing much left for a human..so all I can do is just simply exist before life ends.

Ignorance is finally my blissful calling.

You have not tried going to Iyappa temple LOL .. It is open to women now. That is another religion
 
The truth is that there are too much illogical things in the internet. When I first came across the forum I thought many people have advanced knowledge about life etc. Quickly I found out they mostly have illogical beliefs as their foundation. I am not claiming to know anything but I have a nose to sense BS LoL
 
Nowadays I dont believe anything...
Spent my whole life believing text books...time for me to give my brain a rest and stop wondering.

Somehow Vaishnavas have a better time..they dont " think" as much! LOL

But I have no plans to switch over to Vaishnavaism cos that calls for a lot of blind faith like Abrahamic religions.

Advaita/ Vedanta uses up a lot of substrate in the brain talking about things which finally comes down to a point where we know nothing.

Shaktaism is cultish..mantra..tantra..yantra.

Shaivaism is very Agama based though the plus point is Shiva is sexy!

Seriously there is nothing much left for a human..so all I can do is just simply exist before life ends.

Ignorance is finally my blissful calling.


vAkypadiya says "zAstresu prakriya abhedair avidya upavarNyate, anAgam avikalpa tu svayam vidya upavartate" - The avidya (which I translate as un-learning) is described in the different prakriyas of sAstras. Vidya in itself remains unaffected by them.

Various sAstras help us to un-learn some of our learnings. Learning remains by itself, without alternative.

"andham tamah pravisanti ye avidyam upasate tato bhuya iva te tamah ya u vidyayam ratah" - says Isa upanishad. One who is situated/worships/serves avidya/unlearning enters the blind tamas. Those who are enjoy learning also become similar".

If someone is only in learning or in unlearning they become blind tamasic.

"vidyāṃ cāvidyāṃ ca yastadvedobhya saha, avidyayā mṛtyuṃ tīrtvā'mṛtamaśnute" - Learning and Unlearning both together overcomes the mortality to immortality.

So use the sAstras to unlearn. Use your intellect to learn from everywhere.

The problem with many of us is we learn, but do not un-learn. So we learn more of the same thing which then becomes blind tamasic.


-TBT
 
vAkypadiya says "zAstresu prakriya abhedair avidya upavarNyate, anAgam avikalpa tu svayam vidya upavartate" - The avidya (which I translate as un-learning) is described in the different prakriyas of sAstras. Vidya in itself remains unaffected by them.

Various sAstras help us to un-learn some of our learnings. Learning remains by itself, without alternative.

"andham tamah pravisanti ye avidyam upasate tato bhuya iva te tamah ya u vidyayam ratah" - says Isa upanishad. One who is situated/worships/serves avidya/unlearning enters the blind tamas. Those who are enjoy learning also become similar".

If someone is only in learning or in unlearning they become blind tamasic.

"vidyāṃ cāvidyāṃ ca yastadvedobhya saha, avidyayā mṛtyuṃ tīrtvā'mṛtamaśnute" - Learning and Unlearning both together overcomes the mortality to immortality.

So use the sAstras to unlearn. Use your intellect to learn from everywhere.

The problem with many of us is we learn, but do not un-learn. So we learn more of the same thing which then becomes blind tamasic.


-TBT


I stopped grading things as Sattva,Rajas or Tamas..why should I?

Do we actually have evidence that only 3 modes exists?

God knows! There could be none or there could be more..so why bother finding out the grades of division.

Then we use words like blind..ignorant..etc totally having negative connotations surely written by a so called able bodied person who viewed blindness or a low IQ as limitations to "know"...this is plain Akhanda Ch***yapa!

Religious text is full of words that start from Fool who does not see etc..some other religions use words as deaf and dumb too.

Again showing able bodied thinking physical "deformities" being lesser than them...so does this really show an evolved mindset?

Surely not..so if they didnt get that right..how the freak to even believe what they perceived? After all they still say one cant go tru the senses to "know" the Truth yet they bitch about blindness etc.

Learning or Unlearning is not much different..its just that we only word our thoughts differently and give it a new name.
Placing wine in a new bottle doesn't make it new.
Dressing up and old wife in a new saree doesnt make her new..its just recylcing the same old data in many ways..."Ekam Sat Viprah Recycling Kurvanti"(The Truth verily is..the learned recycle it"


After all take you for an example...you write some stuff ranging from photons..neutrons..positrons...decepticons..leprechauns..becos you have a physics bent of mind..hence you see things from that angle.

If someone is a Master Chef he would be writing about creation from the point of food.

He would say each one is Annam(Food) and big bang could have been a clash of spices and then food came into being.

A doctor would want to see everything as starting off from biological point of view.

A porn star with a spiritual awakening might just see everything as a Cosmic Sex act.

So who is learning..who is un-learning?

Everything is a perception...hence it seems God verily is...everything else is a perception.
 
I stopped grading things as Sattva,Rajas or Tamas..why should I?

Do we actually have evidence that only 3 modes exists?

God knows! There could be none or there could be more..so why bother finding out the grades of division.

Then we use words like blind..ignorant..etc totally having negative connotations surely written by a so called able bodied person who viewed blindness or a low IQ as limitations to "know"...this is plain Akhanda Ch***yapa!

Religious text is full of words that start from Fool who does not see etc..some other religions use words as deaf and dumb too.

Again showing able bodied thinking physical "deformities" being lesser than them...so does this really show an evolved mindset?

Surely not..so if they didnt get that right..how the freak to even believe what they perceived? After all they still say one cant go tru the senses to "know" the Truth yet they bitch about blindness etc.

Learning or Unlearning is not much different..its just that we only word our thoughts differently and give it a new name.
Placing wine in a new bottle doesn't make it new.
Dressing up and old wife in a new saree doesnt make her new..its just recylcing the same old data in many ways..."Ekam Sat Viprah Recycling Kurvanti"(The Truth verily is..the learned recycle it"


After all take you for an example...you write some stuff ranging from photons..neutrons..positrons...decepticons..leprechauns..becos you have a physics bent of mind..hence you see things from that angle.

If someone is a Master Chef he would be writing about creation from the point of food.

He would say each one is Annam(Food) and big bang could have been a clash of spices and then food came into being.

A doctor would want to see everything as starting off from biological point of view.

A porn star with a spiritual awakening might just see everything as a Cosmic Sex act.

So who is learning..who is un-learning?

Everything is a perception...hence it seems God verily is...everything else is a perception.

1. Wait. 'blind' tamasic does not indicate a physically blind person. so why extrapolate..?

2. The word 'Ignorance' was not used by me at all. It was used by you only. So you should introspect on using that word and the resultant 'akhand.."

3. I have not seen any vedic texts starting from perception of 'fool'.

4. I think your starting point probably is an assumption and imagination not related to what I wrote.

5. Tamasic is lack of sattva/rajas or lack of information and energy. The point was people who keep learning something always also end up with lack of information, while who learns and unlearns is on the path of immortality (gaining knowledge).


-TBT
 

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