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    Many Desi TBs working in univ are facing lot of difficulties as do the chinese.

    They get treated like captive labour.

    Since every year they return to india for one month vacation ,at other times this is held against

    them for grant of leave.They are forced to work overtime with no extra compensation and are not

    given leave even when they are unwell.

    They cannot afford to fall sick or even have a minor operation as the health insurance is costly ,.

    The taxes take away quite a bit .

    Accomodation is not cheap and shared with those similarly placed

    Most cook and skip at least one meal to save every cent.

    Add to it the visa regulations , hate mongering against them makes them miserable.

    Most would like to return for good. Most parents would not want them back as they think

    of them as dollar cows to be milked.

    There appears to be no end to their misery and no one to listen to their woes.
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    Hmmm!

    Krish Sir seems to have lot of stories!
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    I have been reading these sob stories from another website .

    I do not know if the difficulties are exaggerated.

    Many mediocre TBs make it to US and complain about the working conditions.

    Life in indian IT companies is also not heaven either.

    In indian univ , the staff, new recruits even temporary are treated pretty well though not well paid.

    They are adhoc appointments renewed every six months.

    In fact in engg colleges, those fresh engineers who do not get placed end up as Adhoc staff.

    They join Masters and on completion become assistant professors.

    Thats why engg college PGs are good only for teaching profession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krish44 View Post
    Many Desi TBs working in univ are facing lot of difficulties as do the chinese.

    They get treated like captive labour.

    Since every year they return to india for one month vacation ,at other times this is held against

    them for grant of leave.They are forced to work overtime with no extra compensation and are not

    given leave even when they are unwell.

    They cannot afford to fall sick or even have a minor operation as the health insurance is costly ,.

    The taxes take away quite a bit .

    Accomodation is not cheap and shared with those similarly placed

    Most cook and skip at least one meal to save every cent.

    Add to it the visa regulations , hate mongering against them makes them miserable.

    Most would like to return for good. Most parents would not want them back as they think

    of them as dollar cows to be milked.

    There appears to be no end to their misery and no one to listen to their woes.

    This is a misleading article. The condition expressed is of people who for one reason or other could not make it.
    That happens all over the world in every field.


    I know of many universities faculties personally. They are thriving and excelling in their field. Their compensation is in keeping with their qualification and comparable to other Americans.

    Most of the B grade schools are entirely staffed by Indians. Even in A grade schools, Indians are Head of the department, Deans, etc. Some of them make millions in compensations from the university alone. In addition, they are sought after as a consultant.

    Yes, there are research assistants who work like dogs. Because of the job requirement. Most of them are just waiting to get academic jobs or did not cut it as one. Most of them do not have a green card, or they do not have a work permit, for outside employment.

    Universities have different Visa requirements, some visa status allows people can work in only universities. So universities do take advantage of the situation. I have a friend who has been in that situation, but he still makes $40,000 a year. According to him, that is a lot more than a lecturer's pay at Madras University.
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    In the past few years, several Indian-born academics have been named president or chancellor at large U.S. research universities. Those appointments include Jamshed Bharucha at the Cooper Union, Pradeep Khosla at the University of California at San Diego, Subra Suresh at Carnegie Mellon University, Satish K. Tripathi at the State University of New York at Buffalo, Virinder K. Moudgil at Lawrence Technological University and Kumble Subbaswamy at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst.

    A number of others, such as Oregon State University Provost Sabah U. Randhawa and Yash P. Gupta, former dean of the business school at Johns Hopkins University, have been finalists in other major research university searches.

    “Four or five appointments do not make a trend,” said Patti McGill Peterson, presidential adviser on global engagement at the American Council on Education and former president of Wells College and St. Lawrence University. “But it could be a signal on horizon that this is something to watch and to think about.”

    Peterson and others said the selection of such individuals and their growing representation in the candidate pool for such jobs could reflect several trends in higher education, particularly efforts starting 40 years ago to recruit top international talent to fill graduate classrooms and faculty ranks at research universities. Those individuals have been steadily climbing the ranks for years and are now of age to assume top leadership roles.

    “Individuals of Indian descent are often among the strongest candidates in the pool,” said Ilene H. Nagel, head of the education practice at Russell Reynolds Associates, a search firm that assisted on the SUNY-Buffalo and UT-Arlington searches. “They often have an accomplished record of academic administration.”

    "It's really about the timing of when people came here," Tripathi said. "In the '50s and '60s, most Indians who came here went back to India. When they came in the '70s and '80s, they stayed on because they found good jobs. They joined faculty ranks and began to become deans and department chairs."

    In selecting Subbaswamy to lead the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, the system's president, Robert L. Caret, cited Subbaswamy's international experience as a positive. "Dr. Subbaswamy often notes that he left his native India to come to here to seek the opportunity and gifts that this great nation bestows," Caret said in a news release announcing the appointment. "He will be a great and knowledgeable leader in what for our students is an increasingly global world."

    Nagel said that more than anything else, the increase in the number of Indian-born presidents is because such individuals have proven themselves to be successful academics and leaders, which are often the key characteristics boards look for in searches. “They are among the most outstanding academics and it’s only right that they start to take their place in leadership,” she said.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/03/21/academics-born-india-see-growth-presidential-ranks


    This is the other end of the scale.
    This article only includes Immigrants. There are PIO born and brought up in the USA in similar positions.
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    You know something interesting Prasadji.

    Satish tripathi and self began our career in the same company in india and also shared a flat with one more person.

    Interestingly I know him as a great cook and he could cook delicious dishes.

    After couple of years we went our different ways.

    Still I remember great times we had together as flat mates.
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