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Finding Guru

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What is your criteria for a GURU?

Inspired in equal parts by the book Eat, Pray, Love and the new Mike Myers' movie "The Love Guru," a writer from the New York Post set out to find her own spiritual guide, and shares a few of the things she learned along the way.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/19/how-to-find-a-guru_n_108110.html
http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/essays/choosingaguru.asp


There is so much controversy surrounding the tradition of gurus that when we hear about a guru we don’t know whether he or she is a really enlightened person, a genuine master, a miracle worker, a charlatan, a magician or an imposter. The problem is complicated further by the activities of a few controversial people and the scandals erupting occasionally over the news channels about their alleged misconduct and corrupt practices. Hindu society is now matured enough to understand the risks involved in following spiritual masters blindly. The connection between a spiritual guru and their disciples is emotional, personal and spiritual. It is based on trust, faith, innocence and the promise of liberation.
http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/essays/choosingaguru.asp
 
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There is so much controversy surrounding the tradition of gurus that when we hear about a guru we don’t know whether he or she is a really enlightened person, a genuine master, a miracle worker, a charlatan, a magician or an imposter. The problem is complicated further by the activities of a few controversial people and the scandals erupting occasionally over the news channels about their alleged misconduct and corrupt practices. Hindu society is now matured enough to understand the risks involved in following spiritual masters blindly. The connection between a spiritual guru and their disciples is emotional, personal and spiritual. It is based on trust, faith, innocence and the promise of liberation.
http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/essays/choosingaguru.asp
I feel this "guru-itis" is a disease which afflicts the most gullible people. They are also lazy, because they entrust their individual "lead my path" to the selected guru and ensure that their so-called spiritual liberation/elevation will thus be fully ensured!

There is a Tamil saying (especially among womenfolk) which goes as, azhuthazhutum piLLai avaLE peRaNum (அழுதழுதும் பிள்ளை அவளே பெறணும் = however unbearable the delivery pains, the child has to be delivered by the mother only!). Now of course there is the Caesarian. If some similar short cut can be found for guru-finding, it will be good.
 
I feel this "guru-itis" is a disease which afflicts the most gullible people. They are also lazy, because they entrust their individual "lead my path" to the selected guru and ensure that their so-called spiritual liberation/elevation will thus be fully ensured!

There is a Tamil saying (especially among womenfolk) which goes as, azhuthazhutum piLLai avaLE peRaNum (அழுதழுதும் பிள்ளை அவளே பெறணும் = however unbearable the delivery pains, the child has to be delivered by the mother only!). Now of course there is the Caesarian. If some similar short cut can be found for guru-finding, it will be good.
When I saw the thread, I too wanted to leave it alone.
If a person can not find their own School, their own Guru etc, may be they do not deserve it.
But I thought this being a newbie, i would cut some slack.
 
The question is "I need a guru and can you help me choose one?"

I do not want to give liberal advices about fake godmen/godwomen etc.,

My suggestion would be this:

Please take the guidance from the following stanza of NyAsa Vimsati by Swami Desikan.

ஸித்தம் ஸத்ஸம்ப்ரதாயே ஸ்த்திரதியமநகம்
ஸ்ரோத்ரியம் ப்ரஹ்ம நிஷ்ட்டம்
ஸத்வஸ்த்தம் ஸத்யவாசம் ஸமய நியதயா
ஸாது வ்ருத்த்யா ஸமேதம்|
டம்பாஸூயாதி முக்தம் ஜித விஷயி கணம்
தீர்க்க பந்தும் தயாளும்
ஸ்க்காலித்யே சாஸிதாரம் ஸ்வ பர ஹித பரம்
தேசிகம் பூஷ்ணு ரீப்சேத்||
 
The question is "I need a guru and can you help me choose one?"

I do not want to give liberal advices about fake godmen/godwomen etc.,

My suggestion would be this:

Please take the guidance from the following stanza of NyAsa Vimsati by Swami Desikan.

ஸித்தம் ஸத்ஸம்ப்ரதாயே ஸ்த்திரதியமநகம்
ஸ்ரோத்ரியம் ப்ரஹ்ம நிஷ்ட்டம்
ஸத்வஸ்த்தம் ஸத்யவாசம் ஸமய நியதயா
ஸாது வ்ருத்த்யா ஸமேதம்|
டம்பாஸூயாதி முக்தம் ஜித விஷயி கணம்
தீர்க்க பந்தும் தயாளும்
ஸ்க்காலித்யே சாஸிதாரம் ஸ்வ பர ஹித பரம்
தேசிகம் பூஷ்ணு ரீப்சேத்||

Why write a sloka without meaning or reference as to where the meaning is provided .. I do not know if the new person or most people here are well versed in Sanskrit to get the meaning

 
Why write a sloka without meaning or reference as to where the meaning is provided .. I do not know if the new person or most people here are well versed in Sanskrit to get the meaning


Here is the link http://www.ibiblio.org/sadagopan/ahobilavalli/nyasa_vimsati.pdf - The quoted sloka is the first one (pages 7-14 of that book).

A subhashitani from here http://subhashitasangraha.blogspot.com/ seems more apt - I will add that the last quarter (knowledge) is obtained by reading from this august forum! :)

आचार्यात् पादमादत्ते पादं शिष्यः स्वमेधया ।
पादं सब्रह्मचारिभ्यः पादम् कालक्रमेण च ॥
A student gets a quarter (knowledge) from his teacher, a quarter by his own intelligence. A quarter from his fellow students and a quarter in due course of time.


May be a time to start a new business making a eguru or eswami or a virtualguru website :)[/FONT][/COLOR]

Eliza is a program that behaves like a psychotherapist - Here is an online version http://www.manifestation.com/neurotoys/eliza.php3
 
Hi

i'm looking for a guru to lead my path
can anybody help
You have now 7 responses, including one from me, to your request.

You cannot look for a guru in the same way you look for a barber shop, tailoring shop, dispensary bank branch, etc. First of all, you have to be clear as to why (what for) you need a guru and what are the qualities you will expect in him. Secondly, it must be understood clearly that a so-called "guru" is not going to be helpful even if he may be very renowned. This is because even those claiming themselves to be gurus and holding themselves out as gurus do not generally know the ultimate truth, and are only trying to keep their followers in a state of dependence; in short, the gurus and "religionists" stand to benefit so long as the sishyas are kept at the level of knowledge of nursery children and are not allowed to learn more because then these sishyas will start asking inconvenient questions which the gurus/ religionists will find difficult to answer.

My sincere suggestion is that you live your life in your own way, and a teacher will come as and when you are qualified for the same.
 
Here is the link http://www.ibiblio.org/sadagopan/ahobilavalli/nyasa_vimsati.pdf - The quoted sloka is the first one (pages 7-14 of that book).

A subhashitani from here http://subhashitasangraha.blogspot.com/ seems more apt - I will add that the last quarter (knowledge) is obtained by reading from this august forum! :)

आचार्यात् पादमादत्ते पादं शिष्यः स्वमेधया ।
पादं सब्रह्मचारिभ्यः पादम् कालक्रमेण च ॥
A student gets a quarter (knowledge) from his teacher, a quarter by his own intelligence. A quarter from his fellow students and a quarter in due course of time.


May be a time to start a new business making a eguru or eswami or a virtualguru website :)[/FONT][/COLOR]

Eliza is a program that behaves like a psychotherapist - Here is an online version http://www.manifestation.com/neurotoys/eliza.php3

Thank you so much.
It seems next set of slokas describe doing puja to the guru.
Do human beings worship other excluding god-men? amazing...

 
hi

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गुरुर्बन्धुरबन्धूनां गुरुश्चक्षुरचक्षुषां ।
गुरुः पिता च माता च सर्वेषां न्यायवर्तिनां ॥
"The teacher is kin to those who don't have any relatives; the teacher is an eye for the blind. The teacher is father and mother to everyone who lives on the path of justice."
 
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