அந்தணர் முன்னேற்ற கழகம் " அ.மு.க - a.m.k

psnarasimhan · Feb 3, 2015

அந்தணர் முன்னேற்ற கழகம் " அ.மு.க - a.m.k

Dear fellow members, I am reproducing a post subscribed IN FB by Mr..ராஜாளி S.ஜெயபிரகாஷ் MA BL வழக்கறிஞர்,தலைவர்,வீரவாஞ்சிநாதன் SVS பேரவை (தமிழ்நாடு பிராம்மணர் இளைஞர் பேரவை) as it is, for your valuable information and ofcourse your views. For this post more than 250 replies were received by him under comments column from all strata of our brahmin community. If you are not interested please avoid sarcastic views, comments, suggestions etc., as it is only his suggestion and not a decision. Please go through his posts below which are self explanatory.Please note that I am in no way connected with it.

Yenna bathil solla...? Please...!
(Badhil kidaitha pinnar...! :-
அன்பு நெஞ்சம் கொண்ட மாண்புடை பெரியோரே...!
உங்களின் விருப்பங்களை (likes) ஆசிர்வாதங்களாகவும், விமர்சனங்களை (comments) வழி காட்டும் பாதைகளாகவும் சிரமேற்கொண்டு நீங்கள் கொடுக்கும் அனைத்து வகை உதவிகளோடும் செயல்படுத்த, செயலாற்ற எண்ணியுள்ளோம்...!
ஒரு சிரந்தாழ்ந்த பணிவான விண்ணப்பம்...!
பெரியவர்கள் நீங்கள் இந்த பதிவை, ஒருவர் பத்து பிராமணர்களிடம் (இந்த பதிவை, படித்தவராயினும்/படிக்காதவராயினும்) எடுத்து சொல்லி புரிய வைக்க வேண்டுகின்றேன்...!
1 நபர் *(பெருக்கல் குறி)10நபர்=10நபர்கள்*10நபர்கள்=100நபர்கள்*10=1,000*10=10,000*10=1,00,000*10=10,00,000 இப்படியாக முதலில் செய்தி பரவட்டும்...!
அதற்குள் முதல் தொடர்பு சாதனமாக ஒரு குழுமம் (group on f.b. - name at present the same) தொடங்குகின்றோம்...!
இதன் வாயிலாக மட்டுமின்றி பிற தொடர்பு சாதன வாயிலாகவும் ஒன்று சேர்வோம்...!
பின்னர் படிப்படியாக உங்கள் உதவி ஆசிகளோடு நம் இலட்சியம் நிச்சயம் அடைவோம்...!
என்றும் பிராமணர்களின் தொண்டர்களாக...,
ராஜாளி.S.ஜெயப்பிரகாஷ் அய்யர்,
இரா.சங்கரநாராயணன் அய்யர்...!

பிராம்மணர் சமுதாயத்திற்கு குரல் கொடுக்க "அந்தணர் முன்னேற்ற கழகம் " அ.மு.க - A.M.K என்ற இயக்த்தை கட்சியை உங்கள் ஆசியோடு வாழ்த்துக்களோடு ஒத்துழைப்போடு உங்களில் நல்ஆதரவு உதவியோடு நம்குல சிங்கம் வீரவாஞ்சிநாதன் ஆசியோடும் என் மதிப்பிற்குவரின் வாழ்த்துக்களோடும் கடவுளின் ஆசியோடும் ஆரம்பிக்கலாம் என்ற யோசனையில் மட்டுமே இருக்கேன்!!!!......மத்திய மாநில அரசுகளால் 65 வருடங்களாக பிராம்மண சமுதாயம் ஒதுக்கபட்டு அதாவது சலுகைகள் அனைத்தும் புறக்கணிக்கபட்டு, தமிழக அரசியல் வியாபாரிகளால், அரசியல் வியாபாரம் செய்வதற்காக பிழைப்பு நடத்துவதற்காக பொதுக்கூட்டங்களில் கட்டுரைகளிலும் நாளேடுகளிலும் தொலைக்காட்சிகளிலும் பிராம்மண சமுதாயத்தின் பழக்கவழக்கங்கள் பேச்சுமொழி நடை உடுத்தும் உடைகளை வசைபாடுவதும் கிண்டல் செய்வதும் கீழ்தரமாக விமர்சிப்பதும் வாடிக்கையாக போகிவிட்டது. தமிழகத்தில் பிராம்மண சமுதாய மக்கள் அரசின் சலுகைகள் ஏதுமின்றி நன்றாக படித்து தனது அறிவால் கடின உழைப்பால் தான் செய்யும் பணிகளில் நேர்மையால் முன்னேறியுள்ளனர்.பிராம்மணர்கள் அமைதியான சுபாவம் கொண்டவர்கள் பிராம்மணர்கள் சமுதாயத்தில் குற்றங்களிலோ வன்முறைகளிலோ ஈடுபடுவது இல்லை. சட்டத்தை மதித்து ஆசார அனுஷ்டானங்களை பின்பற்றி ஹிந்துமத தர்மத்தை காத்து அதை பின்பற்றி வாழ்ந்துவருகின்றனர். தேசமதநலனில் அக்கறையோடும் சமுதாய பணியில் அதிக ஈடுபாட்டோடும் ஈடுபட்டுவருகின்றனர். ஆனால் தமிழகத்தில் ஹிந்து மதத்திற்கு எதிராக மாற்றுமதத்தினருடன் கருத்து வேறுபாடுகள் வரும்போதெல்லாம் ஹிந்துமதத்தினரை தாக்குகிறேன் என்ற பெயரில் பிராம்மண சமுதாய மக்களை தாக்குவதும் பூணுலை அறுப்பதும் போன்ற வன்முறைகளில் சமூகவிரோதிகள் ஈடுபட்டுவருகின்றனர் ஏனென்றால் மற்ற சமுதாயத்தினரை தாக்கினால் அவர்கள் இவர்களை திருப்பி தாக்கிவிடுவார்கள் நையபுடைத்துவிடுவார்கள் ஆனால் பிராம்மணர்கள் திருப்பிதாக்கமாட்டார்கள் என்பதால். ஹிந்து மதத்தில் பிராம்மண சமுதாயத்தில் பிறந்ததால் தேசவிடுதலைக்காக போராடிய தலைவர்களின் புகழை திட்டமிட்டு வரலாற்றில் இருந்து மறைக்கமுற்பட்டுவருகின்றனர். தேசத்திற்காக 29 வயதில் தன் இன்னுயிரை அர்பணித்த மாவீரன் வீரவாஞ்சிநாதனை ஜாதி தலைவர் என்று பிரிவினைவாதிகள் கலகக்காரர்கள் நார்த்திக கூட்டங்கள் கூறுவதும் மிகவும் வேதனையாக உள்ளது.இந்த சூழ்நிலைமாற பிராம்மண சமுதாயத்தற்கு கல்விஉரிமை பெற இழந்த சலுகைகள் பெற பிராம்மணர் சமுதாய வசைபாட படும் இனமாக தாக்குதலுக்கு உள்ளக்கபடும் இனமாக திரைபடங்களில் ஊடகங்கள் அனைத்திலும் இகழபடும் சூழ்நிலை தடுக்கபட நமது வாக்குகளை மட்டும் பெற்றுகொண்டு விட்டு நமக்கு குரல் கொடுக்க முன்வராத அரசியல் சமுதாய தலைவர்கள்கட்சிகள் இருக்கும் சூழ்நிலையில் நமக்கான இயக்கம் ஆரம்பிக்கபட வேண்டும்... "அந்தணர் முன்னேற்ற கழகம்" அ.மு.க. AMK உருவாவதில் என்ன தவறு ...என் பிராம்மண சமுதாய சொந்தங்களே பிராம்மணர் சமுதாயம் மீது அன்பு கொண்டவர்களே கூறுங்கள்...என்றும் பிராம்மணர் சமுதாயபணியில்..ராஜாளி S.ஜெயபிரகாஷ் MA BL வழக்கறிஞர்,தலைவர்,வீரவாஞ்சிநாதன் SVS பேரவை (தமிழ்நாடு பிராம்மணர் இளைஞர் பேரவை)

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krish44 · Feb 3, 2015

it is a good move if brahmins can organise themselves to protect their interests in education and job oppurtunities in

govt.

the reverse discrimination in tamil nadu and elsewhere practised is making life miserable for brahmins -specially the

economically weaker ones.

the Tb brahmin status is no better than kashmiri brahmins. Squeezed out of their own home states , their customs,

habits, religeous practices ridiculed, their womenfolk under pressure to marry into other castes are not desirable

development

there is not even a census of their numbers in tamilnadu . how many have been driven out is a matter of conjecture .

it is a law abiding community which has contributed to culture, education.

its concerns requires to get addressed.

psnarasimhan · Feb 3, 2015

I think it is better and will be a boost for his attempt to start the AMK if persons like you who are supporting him send their comments and views direct to the address given by him in his post. I have already sent my support and comments thro FB and you are the 2nd person from our forum..

V.Balasubramani · Feb 3, 2015

psnarasimhan said:
மத்திய மாநில அரசுகளால் 65 வருடங்களாக பிராம்மண சமுதாயம் ஒதுக்கபட்டு அதாவது சலுகைகள் அனைத்தும் புறக்கணிக்கபட்டு, தமிழக அரசியல் வியாபாரிகளால், அரசியல் வியாபாரம் செய்வதற்காக பிழைப்பு நடத்துவதற்காக பொதுக்கூட்டங்களில் கட்டுரைகளிலும் நாளேடுகளிலும் தொலைக்காட்சிகளிலும் பிராம்மண சமுதாயத்தின் பழக்கவழக்கங்கள் பேச்சுமொழி நடை உடுத்தும் உடைகளை வசைபாடுவதும் கிண்டல் செய்வதும் கீழ்தரமாக விமர்சிப்பதும் வாடிக்கையாக போகிவிட்டது. தமிழகத்தில் பிராம்மண சமுதாய மக்கள் அரசின் சலுகைகள் ஏதுமின்றி நன்றாக படித்து தனது அறிவால் கடின உழைப்பால் தான் செய்யும் பணிகளில் நேர்மையால் முன்னேறியுள்ளனர்.பிராம்மணர்கள் அமைதியான சுபாவம் கொண்டவர்கள் பிராம்மணர்கள் சமுதாயத்தில் குற்றங்களிலோ வன்முறைகளிலோ ஈடுபடுவது இல்லை. சட்டத்தை மதித்து ஆசார அனுஷ்டானங்களை பின்பற்றி ஹிந்துமத தர்மத்தை காத்து அதை பின்பற்றி வாழ்ந்துவருகின்றனர். தேசமதநலனில் அக்கறையோடும் சமுதாய பணியில் அதிக ஈடுபாட்டோடும் ஈடுபட்டுவருகின்றனர். ஆனால் தமிழகத்தில் ஹிந்து மதத்திற்கு எதிராக மாற்றுமதத்தினருடன் கருத்து வேறுபாடுகள் வரும்போதெல்லாம் ஹிந்துமதத்தினரை தாக்குகிறேன் என்ற பெயரில் பிராம்மண சமுதாய மக்களை தாக்குவதும் பூணுலை அறுப்பதும் போன்ற வன்முறைகளில் சமூகவிரோதிகள் ஈடுபட்டுவருகின்றனர் ஏனென்றால் மற்ற சமுதாயத்தினரை தாக்கினால் அவர்கள் இவர்களை திருப்பி தாக்கிவிடுவார்கள் நையபுடைத்துவிடுவார்கள் ஆனால் பிராம்மணர்கள் திருப்பிதாக்கமாட்டார்கள் என்பதால்.

Sir,

The idea of starting a separate body, I mean a party by bringing all sections of Brahmin community to protect their interest, voice their concern and to fight for justice wherever necessary in a democratic way, etc is a good move indeed and which is pending for a long time.

There may be opinions as to what is the need for it now especially when we have a separate banners to do good causes for our community I mean the Tamil Nadu Brahmins Association, etc

As of now our community has no representation in politics while others do have.

As Krish Ji, cited since Pandits of Kashmir does not have party of their own, nearly 7 lakhs of them were brutally killed, threatened and forced to abandon their belongings, homes and jobs. At that time, all other political outfits maintained silent.

Since in a democracy, intellect has no value and in politics only strength proves mightier. So it is necessary to have a political party of our own. Other communities who have similar good number of strength have their own party and they fight and get all the benefits based on their strength I mean strength which is nothing but vote bank.

We may prove minority in strength but at times, in a democratic set up, we have seen Government toppled by a single vote. So here the minority cannot be ignored. But now we are ignored.

cmano1981 · Feb 3, 2015

Either it is DMK or AIADMK, they always bring Brahmins to start programmes nowadays. Even non-brahmins have started telling reservations in colleges/work are wrong. So do we need another one to promote that. Also Kazhagam - why to use that name! Days were gone when Brahmins are looked at like outsiders.. from Jayalalitha, Subramania swamy, BCCI Srinivasan, TCS CXXs, Cho all are Brahmins leading the way and showing our supremacy or leadership!

psnarasimhan · Feb 3, 2015

Sree
They may show their supremacy for themselves a and not for you and.me. and for our community as a whole. Of course using the name 'Kazgam'is not welcome •

V.Balasubramani · Feb 3, 2015

What is important is the idea of all Brahmins with different sub-sections, spread across the globe coming together under one umbrella.

What is in a name? Let us stick to the topic of establishing of separate political identity of our own.

I think as for name, symbol, flag, etc of the party are only secondary. What is important is the exhibition of unity.

vs_ramki1950 · Feb 3, 2015

வாழ்த்துக்கள் . கழகம் என்பதை கட்சி என்று மாற்றினால் சற்று சுவையாக இருக்கும். நிறய கழகங்கள்
இருக்கே. இதை எப்படி அரசியல் ரீதியாக கொண்டு செலுத்த போகிறீர்கள்.யார் தலைமை தாங்கி வழி நடத்துவர்? நாராயண மூர்த்தி அல்லது வேறு பிரபலமானவர்கள் தங்களை brahmins என்று identify பண்ணிக்கொள்ள மாட்டார்கள். காரணம் business. அரசியல் கட்சி ஆனால் ஒரு வார்டில் 50 வோட்டு கிடைக்குமா? அது போதுமா? நாம் தனிமை படுத்த படுவோமா? கோடிக் கணக்கில் பணம் வேண்டுமே?
சிந்தித்து செயல் படவும். மேலும் பல அனுபவ பூர்வ கருத்துக்களை சொல்லுவேன். காரணம் ? இருக்கிறது.

Iyyarooraan · Feb 3, 2015

My well wishes. But it is too early to start. A proper base of opinion should be created. 4 or 40 or 400 do not make a community. If it is for political expediency the whole purpose will be defeated. Wiser it will be if we remain Brahmins and include all Tamil people to go forward. May be it is a cynic idea at present. Our identity is more sacred than the gains through political one-upmanship.

cmano1981 · Feb 3, 2015

Also Brahmins who come to higher level thinks themselves they are best and superior.. It is not possible for tigers or lions which stands separate and exercise power to accept another lion/tigers supremacy.. what you all think?

psnarasimhan · Feb 4, 2015

In continuation of post No.3 above, I give below the full address of the advocate Mr. ராஜாளி S.ஜெயபிரகாஷ் MA BL வழக்கறிஞர்,தலைவர்,வீரவாஞ்சிநாதன் SVS பேரவை (தமிழ்நாடு பிராம்மணர் இளைஞர் பேரவை, as furnished by him:

.ராஜாளி S.ஜெயபிரகாஷ் MA BL வழக்கறிஞர்,தலைவர்,வீரவாஞ்சிநாதன் SVS பேரவை (தமிழ்நாடு பிராம்மணர் இளைஞர் பேரவை) வீரவாஞ்சி இல்லம்.அக்ரக்ஹாரம்.ராஜாளிபட்டி.அஞ்சல்.,தியாகேசர்ஆலை வழி புதுக்கோட்டை மாவட்டம் 621321.cell 9842044227.

RAJALI S.JAYA PRAKASH MA.BL, ADVOCATE.,PRESEDENT.VEERA VANJEENATHAN SVS PEERAVAI(TAMIL NADU BRAHMANAR ILAJAR PEEYRAVAI)., ARCHAHAR.SRIDEVI POODEVI SAMETHA VENGATARAMANA SWAMAY TEMPLE. VEERA VANJENATHAN ILLAM., AGRAHARAM.,RAJALIPATTY.,THIYAGESAR ALLAI VIA ..PUDUKOTTAI DIST., TAMILNADU PIN.621321.;CELL 9842044227. [email protected]

psnarasimhan · Feb 4, 2015

cmano1981 said:
Also Brahmins who come to higher level thinks themselves they are best and superior.. It is not possible for tigers or lions which stands separate and exercise power to accept another lion/tigers supremacy.. what you all think?

What you said is 100% correct. I have been telling this for a long time especially those of NRIs. They think that theywere born with silver spoon in their mouth and look down even those in upper middle class level. They are prepared to give their daughters and sons in marriage to muslims,christians, and to even converted persons if they are wealthy. They classify themselves as "Affluent,Aristocrat,wealthy,secular, etc.," You can yourselves see this in some religeous magazines matrimonial columns. This is how brahmins have downgraded themselves by these selfish motive persons.They never consider boys or girls from poor brahmin families even if the boys or girls are professionally qualified and well employed.They reject these hapless persons because they hail from low strata. Things are going on like this . What to do. We can only shout but cannot do anything..Let us leave this to God Almighty. "Sarvam Sree Krishnaarpanamasthu"

rishikesan · Feb 5, 2015

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Dear Mr. Narasimhan, What you have written is the fact , but % is small. Let us briefly analyse the known reasons for this trend, which has come up only in the last 2 decades, Why ? Reasons are clear as Mirror -----In the last 20 years , our children , both Boys & Girls have chosen Soft-ware ? Computer Science courses which created direct opportunities to fly to U.S. for doing M S, in any field & get into covetable Jobs, in U.S . Now -a days our children need no guidance from us, because those who are already settled in U.S guide the fresh lot & the Queue is moving in right direction.
May be for First semester, Parents arrange for money or the boys/ girls get loans from Banks here & can repay after securing Jobs.
Since these children are really intelligent & within 6 months they receive assistantance/Aids/ some work in the campus & also accommodation thru the Students Association . So, they start earning Min. of 5 to 6 thousand $ in any Job, paving way for planning their Future .
The parents feel extremely HAPPY & buy posh Flats every where in the Cities within about 3/4 years when they are just 30 years of Age. So let us say most of the respective Parents make visits to U.S & enjoy all the pleasures , they could not have dreamed of ?
Now comes the Marriage proposals. One thing we should remember is this :-The eligible guys discuss bet. themselves & also take cues (wrong ones ) for selection of partners . At this crucial stage the respective Parents FAIL, to think about not going for prestige of wealth , which they have achieved more than sufficient, & insist on lesser income families ,who would also come up like their Kids & earn more later.
Keeping this trend in mind I am writing in all important Topics ---To think of forming an Informal Forum of members like a few experienced persons, including the 2/3 vociferous women in the Forum should discuss informally &bring out an Appeal in a manner to Impress our Aim ?

A.Srinivasan

tbs · Feb 5, 2015

rishikesan said:
Dear Mr. Narasimhan, What you have written is the fact , but % is small. Let us briefly analyse the known reasons for this trend, which has come up only in the last 2 decades, Why ? Reasons are clear as Mirror -----In the last 20 years , our children , both Boys & Girls have chosen Soft-ware ? Computer Science courses which created direct opportunities to fly to U.S. for doing M S, in any field & get into covetable Jobs, in U.S . Now -a days our children need no guidance from us, because those who are already settled in U.S guide the fresh lot & the Queue is moving in right direction.
May be for First semester, Parents arrange for money or the boys/ girls get loans from Banks here & can repay after securing Jobs.
Since these children are really intelligent & within 6 months they receive assistantance/Aids/ some work in the campus & also accommodation thru the Students Association . So, they start earning Min. of 5 to 6 thousand $ in any Job, paving way for planning their Future .
The parents feel extremely HAPPY & buy posh Flats every where in the Cities within about 3/4 years when they are just 30 years of Age. So let us say most of the respective Parents make visits to U.S & enjoy all the pleasures , they could not have dreamed of ?
Now comes the Marriage proposals. One thing we should remember is this :-The eligible guys discuss bet. themselves & also take cues (wrong ones ) for selection of partners . At this crucial stage the respective Parents FAIL, to think about not going for prestige of wealth , which they have achieved more than sufficient, & insist on lesser income families ,who would also come up like their Kids & earn more later.
Keeping this trend in mind I am writing in all important Topics ---To think of forming an Informal Forum of members like a few experienced persons, including the 2/3 vociferous women in the Forum should discuss informally &bring out an Appeal in a manner to Impress our Aim ?

A.Srinivasan

hi

nice analysis.....welll informed....BUT POONAIKKU YARU MANI KATTARATHU?...

Raji Ram · Feb 5, 2015

rishikesan said:
.......... 1. Now -a days our children need no guidance from us, because those who are already settled in U.S guide the fresh lot & the Queue is moving in right direction.
..........
2. To think of forming an Informal Forum of members like a few experienced persons, including the 2/3 vociferous women in the Forum should discuss informally & bring out an Appeal in a manner to Impress our Aim ? ......

Dear Rishi Sir,

Do you think that we can bring any changes by informal forum meetings?

Please read your 1. line quoted above! ''Children need NO guidance from us!''

rishikesan · Feb 5, 2015

Dear Mrs RajiRam, Yes, what I have written is correct as far as their education & related , matters, esp.information , scholarship university choice etc. Parents do not come in the picture. Forum:s concern is about their life after securing Jobs & looking for Marriage & settling down in life, which is crucial, not only for the Boy or Girl , but for the Parents mainly & other close relatives.
It is a fact that these youngsters cannot be expected to know ,in depth about real life/ practical aspect of family life which forms the real Society . So, only if they honestly have faith in the first instant, with the parents & the parents ---Vice- Versa , any decision can be easily taken after mutual discussions about the families proposed for marriages,with no pre determined notions on either side, and decide properly with a Give & Take attitude from parents & the Boys/ Girls,.
Unfortunately, in most cases there are only one Boy or One girl & it is all the more important for the Boys & Girls to give deep thought & decide the alliance ,so that parents would be happy in their old age to live happier with In-laws as well.
After having successful Job/ buying properties & enjoying real life with no ill-will ?, why not AVOID inter-caste marriages , as far as possible & go for not much affluent families who can be relied upon for better adjustment & no unwarranted complaints about disparities, because the Boy or the Girl are in same status after studies & getting Jobs equal to the other Boy or Girl ? Should not think of belittling the poor parents for no obvious reason. Develop broad outlook, please
A.Srinivasan (rishikesan)

Raji Ram · Feb 5, 2015

Dear Rishi Sir,

'Broad outlook' has a totally different meaning for the youngsters. Most of the boys and girls have their own ideals and goals

and wish to choose their partner accordingly. Relocation plays a major role and they search outside caste and at times religion

too. I have heard a few youngsters refer to horoscope as horrorscope and they don't believe in finding matches starting with

horoscopes. Parents are 'expected' to approve of their choice. Times are changing and we have to accept the facts.

P.S: No more posts from me, on marriages since it diverts the path of the OP.

rishikesan · Feb 6, 2015

Dear Rajiram, you seemed to ha

krish44 · Feb 6, 2015

retuning to the subject of the thread, brahmins constitue about 3-4 percent of tamilnadu population . the numbers may

not exceed 8.5 lakhs.

unless all brahmins -of south -telugu, malayali,kannada and others should get included to make up numbers.

if need be forward castes such as pillaimar, mudaliyars, tamils, telugu reddiers, naidus, malayali menons,nairs

besides kannada forwards can get incorporated.

unless they add upto 10 percent voting strength and vote enmass like mayawathys dalits, they cannot make a

difference according to pollsters.

the kerala example is start a service organisation first for the benefit of forward communities as they have done for

education and marriages and then convert to play a political role during elections.

there are deras in north . a swami with a large following is flexing his political muscle in delhi election to aid bjp . he

has lakhs of followers in delhi. forwards can do the same in south.

rishikesan · Feb 6, 2015

Dear Mrs Raji, Whatever you have written are the BITTER Truth, Though Boys & Girls are becoming the Masters & want to have their own way, in every possible manner, even not taking their parents into confidence, then customs & rituals become Farce? In that case of extreme freedom & total independence, can leave the so-called Society gets Extinguished ? If you are clear on this, I agree to not to contribute to this useless arguments & counters do not lead us anywhere?
Rishikesan

rishikesan · Feb 6, 2015

Dear Mr. Krish, There are 2 proposals One for finding some workable solution like informal Meetings between those interested ? No 2 forming an Association on political lines.
Ist One is feasible & worth trying, if we can get consolidated views &try to convince others c& we fail.,Leave it ?
No 2, is impossible by any means.
But still we can seriously think of Service only I have been suggesting, like offering Assistance to not so well off Brahmins
You are capable of moving the Stone & also Bell the Cat simultaneously. I am not Joking.
Rishikesan ( A. Srinivasan)

psnarasimhan · Feb 6, 2015

Dear sree tbs,krish,rishi and others ,
Thank you all for your united stand againt brahmin girls marrying with IC and IR boys. But we need not invite enimies from outside. There are enough people particularly the so called educated womenfolk who are deadset and hellbent to destroy our brahmin girls by giving very wise advises to go out for marrying ICandIR boys. Some women are of the view that there is no necessity for a kungum in their forehead when thali itself had become obsolete. What a nice and wonderful idea? These womenfolk want to see the tamilbrahmins are completely wiped out ,put them in a big pit,covered and built a memorial with fine words "Here lies the tamil brahmins"and Until they accomplish their aim I am sure they will never keep quiet.Perhaps they might have caught in a big web and want to see that others also put in that web. This is just like."தனக்கு ஒரு கண் போனால் போகட்டும் மற்றவருக்கு இரண்டு கண்ணும் போகவேண்டும் என்ற தத்துவம்தான் . அல்லது புலி வாலை பிடித்த கதைதான்."
As you are all well experienced and well educated why did you bring this marriage matter into this thread about 'starting a political party for brahmins' by an advocate gentleman.Further posting your views and suggestions about the AMK you may please address direct to that gentleman , as he is anxiously looking forward for views and suggestions from our community people.Hope this post will not be misunderstood by you all.

Vaagmi · Feb 6, 2015

Shri Rishikesan Sir's concern and his desire to somehow organize brahmins into one force is well understood. I have thought about it and I have the following suggestions(only suggestions) for consideration by all interested members:

1. There is no use organising ourselves into a political party because a) we will come in conflict with several powerful forces b) we will become a single identifiable entity for attacks and we will be too small a party to have any impact on national politics or local affairs. So it would be advisable to work silently in the background making full use of all the rights and facilities that the civil law has given to the citizens of this country.

2. But organize we must.

a. We already have several organizations at the micro level. There are bhajanai matoms, asthika samajams, vedadhyana sabhas, ganesh mandalis, samooha matoms etc., These are the basic structures around which we should build our unity.

b. We should encourage these organizations to form a sort of federation and pool their resources. The rights and responsibilities can be determined on the basis of what each one of them bring to the table. They can decide on what the brahmin community needs now. It has its strengths and weaknesses too. Both should be identified. The idea should be to use the strengths to improve the economic and social standards of the community. The weaknesses should be removed by concerted effort.

c. Many initiatives comes to my mind immediately;

d. like, encouraging bright students by organizing tution classes for coaching them at a very nominal cost for high end entrance examinations,

e. encouraging drop outs(due to various reasons) to learn Agama etc., beside prayoga manthras so that they can be sent to US and European countries where their services are in demand as more and more temples are built there. a certain amount of basic sanskrit knowledge may be given along with the teaching of Agama sastras.

f. a system of network of mentorship can be formally put in place by which poor but bright students are linked to rich philanthropists as well as learned professors so that they become well educated citizens of this country.

g. Classes can be conducted in which the boys and girls of marriageable age can be given an insight into the uniqueness of brahmin culture and customs and practices. They can be told about the need to preserve the culture. They can be told about the need to marry within the community. They can be told why they should not marry outside the community.

h. A forum can be created in which new entrants to the job market and the well employed can meet. The knowledge gained can be leveraged in interviews and even vacancies can be brought to the knowledge of suitable candidates.

i. Classes can be conducted to those who go abroad for studies as well as jobs to tell them the need to get back to the country after earning a good amount there because it is here in this karmabhoomi that we have to ultimately settle down. and for protecting our children from evil influences of a lawless west they can be told about the importance of sending the children back for studies here beyond a certain age/stage.

j. The community can organize building a chain of schools/colleges so that they can become institutions of excellence in course of time and brahmin students can be given preference for admission.

k. Like Parsis old age homes can be run as a community initiative.

People can think on these lines instead of thinking about a AMK. It is better to work silently and unobtrusively. Ultimately what matters is how resourceful you are. People will respect you on that basis.

கால பைரவன் · Feb 6, 2015

Vaagmi said:
j. The community can organize building a chain of schools/colleges so that they can become institutions of excellence in course of time and brahmin students can be given preference for admission.

Dear vaagmi,

That was an excellent post. Except for the quoted point. I hope you are not serious with this suggestion. Because you seem to be completely oblivious to the current set of draconian laws ( known as RTE) that controls how educational institutions are run. It is nay impossible to achieve this unless all the brahmins convert enmasse. May be stating this makes me a communal fanatic but that is the truth.

rishikesan · Feb 7, 2015

கால பைரவன்;284708 said:
Dear vaagmi,

That was an excellent post. Except for the quoted point. I hope you are not serious with this suggestion. Because you seem to be completely oblivious to the current set of draconian laws ( known as RTE) that controls how educational institutions are run. It is nay impossible to achieve this unless all the brahmins convert enmasse. May be stating this makes me a communal fanatic but that is the truth.[/QUOT

Dear M.Vagme, Your views are really excellent &I am happy that you have consolidated all the thoughts & proposals I thought of, has been cogently enumerated. Without further arguments on issues, please start implementing one by one, from easier one to go up One by one taking into confidence of all interested in the Aim of progress of Brahmins.In the process , do not give room for any negative approach, which could deviate our GOAL
Can you please Phone me up 8754577051/. 044 24806871
Loving friend
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