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    I was sick to read this. Sonya Gandhi's plans are working!


    UP: 350 Hindus convert to Christianity

    UNI | October 05, 2006 | 01:04 IST

    About 350 Hindus of the district adopted Christianity at a conversion ceremony held in Baksha area in Jaunpur.Official sources on Wednesday said the 350 Hindus belonged to Agraura, Sonwar, Saduddinpur, Dhaniamau, Uttarpatti and Rari villages of Baksha.
    The conversion ceremony took place on Tuesday at Belhara village, where Father Rajendra Chauhan read out the gospel to them.
    He also gave each of the neo-convertees a locket of Jesus Christ.
    Meanwhile, Angad Singh -- the husband of Belhara gram pradhan Tulsa -- alleged the poor Hindus were forcibly converted by the Christian missionaries.
    He has submitted a compliant at the Baksha police station against the missionaries involved in the ''forced" conversions.
    However, an FIR is yet to be registered.
    Since the last four years, Christian missionaries have been active in the block, encouraging poor villagers to adopt Christianity.
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    Dear Friends,

    This will continue to happen as long as we do not accept and treat our downtrodden brethren better. It is not money alone. It is more than that.

    Pranams,
    KRS
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    Dear KRS:
    You are absolutely right; this casteism is a cancer in the Hindu society and we cannot complain about the conversions (forced or not) until we start treating these people as fellow Hindus and treat them well.
    The politicians (MK) are foolishly playing with fire - they are only interested in pandering to christians and muslims so keep the vote bank; they are not looking ahead as to what could happen to India.
    In the meantime, sadly, the christianization of India continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRS
    Dear Friends,

    This will continue to happen as long as we do not accept and treat our downtrodden brethren better. It is not money alone. It is more than that.

    Pranams,
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    It is not because of the treatment meted out to the downtrodden in Hindu society.The lot of the Dalits is worse in CHRISTIANITY. Please read the book entitled "CHRISTHAVAMUM SAATHIYUM" (CHRISTIANITY & CASTE) written by a communist & dedicated to veteran CPI leader NALLAKKANNU. The book has been written impartially & dispassionately. It describes how uppercaste Vellala Christians made life hell for NADAR & HARIJAN Christians in different parts of T.N. The situation has not improved even now. Recently there was a programme on WIN TV on how Telugu-speaking Reddy Christians are harassing Tamil Harijan Christians near Madhuranthakam. The book "CHRISTHAVAMUM SAATHIYUM" has been published by "KAALACHUVADU PATHIPPAGAM", NAGARKOVIL, Kanyakumari Dt. Nowadays Dalits are not attracted to Christianity. THEY PREFER ISLAM BECAUSE CASTEISM & UNTOUCHABILITY ARE LESS IN ISLAM THAN IN CHRISTIANITY. In
    fact casteism and untouchability are worst in Christianity. It is because of billions of dollars pumped into India by the EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS OF U.S.A. WITH THE ACTIVE CONNIVANCE OF GEORGE W. BUSH (WHO HIMSELF IS A "BORN AGAIN" EVANGELIST) that Dalits & non-Dalits are attracted towards Christianity.There are TWO 24 HOUR CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA CHANNELS IN TAMIL ALONE, NAMELY "ANGEL TV" & "BLESSING TV" run by two Tamil evangelists. Where did they get the money from ? It requires crores of rupees for hiring a transponder on a satellite & at least Rs.TEN LAKHS every day for maintaining the Channel. Where did these Indian "evangelists" get the money from? Moreover, they do not have any advertisement income.
    So, if people are embracing Christianity TODAY, it is not because of untouchability, since untouchability is worse in Christianity. Dalits who want to escape from untouchability & casteism, CONVERT TO ISLAM & NOT TO CHRISTIANITY.

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    You should watch the televisions here in the morning.

    One ministry after another preaching Christianity for close to 2-3 hrs in like 3 diff tv channels.

    those who do convert are simply falling into false promises and trap.

    the moment they convert, they leave behind all their previous friends and relatives.

    so their only "friend" is the church.

    once they realize what they have got into, they cannot go out because they dont have anyone to fall back on apart from the church which will duly ban them.

    so for fear of being alienated all those who converted stay converted evn though deep down they regret it every single moment.
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    In a lighter vein, i often wonder about the 'confused state of mind' of such converts.

    Venkatesan becomes John Venkatesan & Srinivasan becomes Stephen Srinivasan. If they have decided to 'convert' pray why they want to carry the baggage of Venkatesan & Srinivasan....

    Also a clever strategy employed by these evangelists is to use such JV's & SS's to drive home the message further.
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    All the points are heard from hindus only.One of my friend in Rajapalayam told me that people got converted for the sake of 250/-.In a village near chengalpattu some 100 families of hindus got converted getting 10000/- and few people become 'FATHERS' and now they started converting people. I was told by one christian friend who is a moderate that if we show some organization about the list of convertees accordingly money will be pocketed.
    For the poor people (here mostly dalits) they dont find difference between Krishna and Christ initially. Only after a few years they are mesmerised.Many nadars even after conversion they were mingling and calling with old relationship with hindu nadars but in due course the difference brewed and now there started fights.Everywhere dalits are treated as dalits and uppercaste dont treat them same. Only in Hinduism slowly the situation has changed.Even in muslims Pathans,Khans cant move freely with dalit converts.
    Till money is allowed to flow from foreign countries to charities these conversion will take place in large scale.And the media are supportive of such conversion so we have to fight a big battle if we need to stop conversion.
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    Folks,

    Conversions are not new to India. But what is alarming is that the conversions are no more based on an individual's choice of a religion - which should be respected, while understanding that a person's birth religion has everything that a person requires, in terms of cultural, philosophical and life support.

    Nowadays, conversions have become a 'business' because of the foreign money thrown for it, to 'harvest the hapless souls'. This plays right in to the vote bank politics also.

    But my only question is this - if our religion takes care of EVERYONE in it's fold, will there be any conversions? Who is responsible for this? Why do we have folks in Hinduism, who would convert on the basis of receiving money? Again, who is responsible for this state of affairs and who should resolve this?

    Just simple questions we all should be asking ourselves, in my humble opinion.

    Pranams,
    KRS
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    It's very heart wrenching to know that many hindus are being converted to christianity.Embracing a religion is no fault but accepting a religion out of another's compulsion is something preposterous.Sadly,people,in need of money are converted to the religion .Is this what is called religion?Donating money and other things as such to people and mesmerising them?God,my blood boils with anger!How can people stoop to such low levels?I ain't blaming the chrsitians alone for this?What the hell makes people convert to other religions for the nedd of sheer money?

    I'd say converting to other religions has increased coz of materialism and nothing else.People have become self centered and materialistic,of late and the least they care about,is religion.

    I'm not complaining but this very stuff happens in my college too.Many hostel girls(christians) are mesmerising others,if i may say,and forcibly convert them.One of my classmates is now a a very "devout" christian and inspite of her mother telling her to stop doing something stupid like this,she says she'd convert sometime later and wouldnt listen to anybody.What can possibly go wrong with thses people?I dont blame the christians but i'd rather praise them!Where's the self control for these people??!!!

    I'd strongly recommend that people read about our culture and the significance of our religion in the school level.But demons(our politicianjs) wont do that.They's rather we read quran and the holy bbible!Whoa!They intervene in religious issues when they arent a wee bit interested in religion and brand themseldves as "thi ka " activists!How convenient??!!!

    Every body must be aware of our cultural ethics and must fast atleast during Ekadasi s.Only if that happens will we not become a minority,at the rate the conversion level goes.
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    SILVERFOX what is this “conversions” to do with Sonia Gandhi ?
    "Abdul katharukkum ammavasikum enna sammantham"

    Mr.Chanakya comment is close to reality. To my knowledge many village in Tamilnadu, lot of old people convert to Christianity to avail the facility in “homes for old” provided by Christian community and lot of poor convert to get some money and job in Christian missionary. And Dalit leader do this mass conversion for political stunt.

    Also people loose the SC/ST status when they convert to Christian, so this is never brought officially, many Christian people have Hindu name register in school to avail the quota benefits.

    This is my view from what I have experience and what I have seen. But can silverfox tell us how Sonia is related to this religion conversion..is it just because she is christian?

    I believe this conversion’s are possible, because some group is doing this sincerely as job spending/investing in dollars. ("Job" because they get paid for it $$$$)
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