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200 Dalits in Bihar convert to Christianity

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Looks like the missionaries have become aggressive in their campaign...The poor are being lured..How come Lalu, Mulayam & Nitish are silent..How about MuKa who was waxing eloquently the other day about Secularism to Modi has kept mum on this issue...If the missionaries are hell bent on changing the demographics of the country there is nothing wrong in BJP and its wings going on a hyperbole on this!

200 Mahadalits convert to Christianity in Bihar, Chief Minister seeks probe

Amarnath Tewary

The Mahadalits from 40 families of Atiya village under Pararia panchayat of Bodh Gaya block converted to Christianity at a Christmas function organised in a local school.


After Bhagalpur and Munger, it was turn of Bodh Gaya where in a village 200 Mahadalits converted to Christianity on Christmas Day. Chief Minister Jitan Manjhi, who himself is from the community and from the same district, has sought a probe into the event.


About 200 Mahadalits from 40 families of Atiya village under Pararia panchayat of Bodh Gaya block converted to Christianity on Thursday at a Christmas function organised in a local school by a priest, Brother Rajkishore.


In 2008 too, 35 families from the same village had converted to Christianity
The villagers have reportedly said that they have converted to Christianity for their growth and betterment in life. However, village head Munia Devi said she has no knowledge about the conversions, “though, a function was organised in the village school on Thursday”.
A local official said that the villagers like Dhanesh Manjhi and Bhanesh Manjhi have said that they had participated in the function on Christmas day to express their faith in Christianity like other villagers without any “allurement, fear or favour”.


Meanwhile, Mr. Manjhi, who was in his village in Gaya district on Thursday, has sought a report on the incident from the district magistrate. “I’ve asked the officials to look into it whether it was forced conversion out of any pressure or allurement or on their own,” he said.
“If they have converted on their own there is nothing wrong in it,” he said while adding that a high-level probe could be ordered if there was any need of it.


Earlier, similar reports of conversion of Mahadalit families to Christianity had come from Bhagalpur ad Munger districts of the State. However, when officials visited those villages to ascertain the facts, the villagers had denied their “conversion to any other religion” and had said they have merely expressed their faith in Jesus Christ for “betterment and growth in their life”.

200 Mahadalits convert to Christianity in Bihar, Chief Minister seeks probe - The Hindu
 
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It is good such news get media attention and reporting. All these days they were selecive in reporting. Let all conversion, reconversion or deconversion be recorded, reported, investigated and cleared. When divorce is considered, a cooling period is given to the couple to reflect, seek counsel and evaluate cost/benefits.
 
first the root causes of conversion-economic deprivation and caste discrimination needs to get

tackled.

next all foreign funding aiding conversion should be stopped , punishing the receivers with

exorbitant fines

all preachers and dicey elements of various religions indulging in conversion should be hauled up

and prosecuted. most sell religion by offering inducements to the converts. in very few cases it is

voluntary.

state needs to have stringent laws governing conversion.

it will come in course of time
 
Here is a tweet from an evangelist gloating about how he won 784 souls!

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Secular liberals or libtards as they are now known will behave like this:
1. Shout that such things do not happen and ignore proof. A senior member claimed that 'love jihad' is hindutva invention and does not exist despite court ruling.
2. Blame modi and hindu organisations even when there is no connection or evidence.
3. Pretend they don't understand and run away.
Libtards have found their match in social media.
 
Dalit Christian converts in Bihar seek police protection, accuse Sangh of intimidation

The 42 "mahadalit" families that recently converted to Christianity have sought police protection and alleged that several outfits of the Hindu right-wing have been threatening them to reconvert to Hinduism.


In a petition, with two pages of signatures, the new converts have accused the VHP, the RSS and the Bajrang Dal of indulging in intimidation to get them back to the Hindu fold. The petitioners said that they had embraced Christianity on their own free will.


According to the petition addressed to the Bodh Gaya SHO, a group of 30-40 intruders raided the Christan hamlet around midnight on Saturday. But when the vigilantes challenged them, the intruders made a hasty retreat.


Shiv Shankar Masih, the first dalit from the village who embraced Christianity way back in 2007 and now leads the new converts of the village told the TOI on Monday morning that activists of the VHP, the Bajrang Dal and the RSS have been visiting the village to issue threats to the converts.


The converts have been warned that they will be deprived of all the benefits of government schemes and driven out of the village if they did not come back to the Hindu fold.


Shiv Shankar Masih alleged that on Sunday evening, Gaya MP Hari Manjhi offered Masih a government job if he returned to the Hindu fold. However, nobody has been specifically named in the petition submitted to the local SHO.
Dalit Christian converts in Bihar seek police protection, accuse Sangh of intimidation - The Times of India
 
TOI is now known as toilet paper of India in intelligent social circles. Its reports are biased, half truths and in many cases plain lies. Anyone who relies on toi is on slippery grounds and often gives one line retraction.
 
TOI is now known as toilet paper of India in intelligent social circles. Its reports are biased, half truths and in many cases plain lies. Anyone who relies on toi is on slippery grounds and often gives one line retraction.
A sample of TOI's irresponsible journalism: http://bit.ly/1vCDWc1

TOI first reported that the IIT Delhi director Ragunath K Shevgaonkar had quit his post after reportedly coming under tremendous pressure from the human resource development ministry for demanding that HRD provide the IIT ground for a cricket academy that Sachin Tendulkar wanted to open. However, after Sachin Tendulkar denied the claim that he wanted IIT Delhi grounds to build cricket academy, and said that the "facts" in the report about him were fictional, TOI published a clarification in its article and apologized to the concerned parties.

So, the rule of thumb? Report gossip as ‘fact’ to deliberately create sensationalism, then apologize, if proved wrong.


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these things are happening through out india regularly....just another media hype.....everytime congress was power....more

minorities were protected in the name of vote bank....this is just blame game...
 
It is not that simple. It is organized crime against hindus and hindu way of life. Malicious reporting is not accidental, it is intentional. To ignore such reports and magazines is a dangerous act, and supporting them is criminal. Hope the paper gets sued for malicious reporting and defamation of majority community.

Recent toi report on clashes between communities in bhopal; one community was attacked and their houses were burnt, the victims had muslim names. This area, as per the report had communal clashes in the past, and by implication, the reporter said in as many words that this attack too was communal with muslims portrayed as victims. The real story, this clash was between sunnis and shia muslims over what is happening in iraq and ISIS. This most important issue was deliberately kept out of the report.

hi

these things are happening through out india regularly....just another media hype.....everytime congress was power....more

minorities were protected in the name of vote bank....this is just blame game...
 
TOI has got a legal notice for 1 crore damages for false reporting and defamation.

A sample of TOI's irresponsible journalism: http://bit.ly/1vCDWc1

TOI first reported that the IIT Delhi director Ragunath K Shevgaonkar had quit his post after reportedly coming under tremendous pressure from the human resource development ministry for demanding that HRD provide the IIT ground for a cricket academy that Sachin Tendulkar wanted to open. However, after Sachin Tendulkar denied the claim that he wanted IIT Delhi grounds to build cricket academy, and said that the "facts" in the report about him were fictional, TOI published a clarification in its article and apologized to the concerned parties.

So, the rule of thumb? Report gossip as ‘fact’ to deliberately create sensationalism, then apologize, if proved wrong.


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Today's 'The Hindu' reported that 1000 families (6000 members) from OBC in Maharashtra converted to Buddhism. There is a plan to convert 6 lakhs OBCs by 2016.

The action of some Hindu Groups starts backfiring.
 
Conversion to any indic religion is fine. Happening all the time. They are inclusive. Only the abrahamic ones are dangerous.
 
Conversion to any indic religion is fine. Happening all the time. They are inclusive. Only the abrahamic ones are dangerous.

Do Buddhists visit Hindu Temples and worship Hindu Gods? If it is in negative, it is equal to conversion by Abrahamic Religions.
 
Do Buddhists visit Hindu Temples and worship Hindu Gods? If it is in negative, it is equal to conversion by Abrahamic Religions.

Buddhists may not worship Hindu idols; but they do not act like a Ghazni or Timur or Aurangzeb...We welcome all indigenous religions be it Buddhism, Jainism or Sikhism...We did not have sectarianism on account of these indigenous religions except in Punjab for a short period
 
Buddhists may not worship Hindu idols; but they do not act like a Ghazni or Timur or Aurangzeb...We welcome all indigenous religions be it Buddhism, Jainism or Sikhism...We did not have sectarianism on account of these indigenous religions except in Punjab for a short period

What happened to Srilankan Tamil Hindus? Are they safe?
 
The ‘ghar wapsi’ campaign needs to rebuild the ‘ghar’ they want people to return to.
The RSS, the Hindu Mahasabha and other elements of the Sangh Parivar who want to turn India into a Hindu rashtra through mass conversions called ‘ghar wapsi’ have their work cut out for them, because they face a couple of serious obstacles in achieving their objective. And these obstacles are not their ideological opponents like Congress and Mulayam Singh Yadav’s Samajwadi Party. Nor is it the trifling matter of the Constitution, which clearly defines India as a secular republic.
No, the real problem with the so-called ‘ghar wapsi’ campaign is that many of those whom the Parivar is urging to come wapsi-ing back to their ghar didn’t belong to the ghar in the first place, which makes it difficult, semantically at least, for them to come back to it. For a lot of people being targeted for ‘reconversion’ by the Parivar belongs to tribal communities, which by and large were animists and did not belong to the Hindu fold. Indeed, as the story of Eklavya in the Mahabharata shows, tribals were given short shrift by mainstream Hinduism with its caste hierarchy: Eklavya, a tribal, is made to cut off his thumb and give it to Dronacharya as guru-dakshina because Dronacharya fears that his ‘low-born’ pupil will outdo the ‘high-born’ Arjuna in archery.
Tribals apart, many of those being ‘reconverted’ are dalits who, if anything, have been even more badly treated than tribals by casteist Hinduism, which looked down on them as being ‘untouchables’, literally and metaphorically. It was this enforced ‘untouchability’ which impelled many dalits to embrace religions like Buddhism. How can those who were considered outcasts – or ‘outcastes’- be brought back to a Hinduism which excluded them to begin with?
But perhaps the biggest problem faced by the ‘reconversionists’ is that, unlike Islam and Christianity, Hinduism has never been a proselytising religion. Before the Arya Samaj leader Swami Shraddhanand launched a programme of mass conversions in the 1920s, Hinduism never had a tradition of conversions, much less ‘reconversions’.
So before the Hindu brotherhood of the Sangh Parivar goes about converting, or ‘reconverting’, people to Hinduism it might have to do a bit of converting of Hinduism itself so as to bring proselytising within its purview. In order to bring in recruits to swell its ranks, Hinduism might have to convert, or reinvent, itself.
But should it do so, it might run a risk. To paraphrase Groucho Marx, recruits to Hinduism could well say that they did not want to join a religion which would have them as converted members.
 
converted persons to any religion face similar issues.

even a converted muslim or christian would not be treated as equals by those who are muslims or

christians since birth.

in fact recently I was reading about conflict between two churches of different order one patronised

by south indian old bureaucrats in delhi , the other by recent lower caste converts from south india

who are labourers and domestic workers. the conflict was serious enough to reach higher levels in

rome for resolving. simlarly , there are divisions such as sheikh, syed, other royal blooded

muslims descendants of nawabs their concubines and poor recent converts from hindus .converts

are more fanatic about their new religion and cling more to their religion. others accept their

religion as a fact and aare not very particular about worshipping a number of times a day as

muslims, or sunday church going as christians. it is more difficult to be a convert to any religion.lol
 
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