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    Much Unknown Gods of Our Religion


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    Dear all

    Pranams

    We all know very well gods like shiva, vishnu, krishna, rama, shakti, durga, lakshmi, saraswathi...village deities like Aiyanaar, Muneeswarar. In this list, there will be some gods (Devathas or incarnations of main deity) of missing. In this thread, we can share details of such god, their abode (temple), their style of worship, etc.

    For example, the now-famous divine pair "prathyangira and sarabeswara". The separate temples for them have been a recent trend, though there are few old temples also for them. But for the generations of 60s-70s, the name of this divine pair itself will be new to hear.

    Likewise, in this thread, I wish all our forum members to contribute details about the deities whom they think that their worship has been missed out.

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    Kann Kalikkumpadi kandukonden Kadambadaviyil
    pann kalikkum kural veenaiyum kaiyum payodharamum
    mann kalikkum pachai vannamum aghi mathangar kula
    penngalil thondria emperumaatithan perazhage

    (Abirami Andhadhi)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DURGADASAN View Post
    Dear all

    Pranams

    Likewise, in this thread, I wish all our forum members to contribute details about the deities whom they think that their worship has been missed out.

    Pranams
    We chant" Gurur Brahma,Gurur Vishnu,Gururdevo Maheswara......"

    "Brahma murari suraarchita lingam.....''

    "Brahmaadi yogi muni poojitha sidha mantram Daridray dukha bhavaroga vinaasa mantram.......Raghuraama mantram..." etc

    Brahma is the first of Trimurthis, and the Srushti Kartha. But why Brhma is not worshipped? The other two Siva and Vishnu are worshipped.If at all, how many famous temples are there for Brahma? What are the prayer slokas on Brahma? Do anybody pray to Brahma? Is it not logical to pray to Brahma for the blessings of having children, as he is the srushti kartah?

    Asuras are reported to have prayed to Brahma and got many "Varams.Even Devas pray to Brahma .".Why humans are not praying to Brahma?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuryaKasyapa View Post
    We chant" Gurur Brahma,Gurur Vishnu,Gururdevo Maheswara......"

    "Brahma murari suraarchita lingam.....''

    "Brahmaadi yogi muni poojitha sidha mantram Daridray dukha bhavaroga vinaasa mantram.......Raghuraama mantram..." etc

    Brahma is the first of Trimurthis, and the Srushti Kartha. But why Brhma is not worshipped? The other two Siva and Vishnu are worshipped.If at all, how many famous temples are there for Brahma? What are the prayer slokas on Brahma? Do anybody pray to Brahma? Is it not logical to pray to Brahma for the blessings of having children, as he is the srushti kartah?

    Asuras are reported to have prayed to Brahma and got many "Varams.Even Devas pray to Brahma .".Why humans are not praying to Brahma?


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    Actually as per Puranas,when Brahma lied as having seen the head of Siva,Siva cursed him for uttering a lie and mentioned that he would not be worshipped and no temple would be there for Brahma.But in Pushkar at Rajasthan there is temple for Brahma.

    A light banter about prasadam of Brahma involving Kanchi Mahaperiyava.A devotee lamented to H.H. that since Brahma does not have temple people do not have the opportunity to get his prasadam.It was a Pradhakshina amavasya day where people were supposed to do asvatta pradakshinam when one person came and offered the prasadam to H.H. H.H.offered that to the person who lamented about not getting Brahma's prasadam and said it had come for him mentioning that the sloka recited for the occasion mentioned"Mulatho Brahma rupaya" in honour of Asvatta tree.Hence it was deemed to be a Trimurthi prasadam including Brahma
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuryaKasyapa View Post
    Brahma is the first of Trimurthis, and the Srushti Kartha. But why Brhma is not worshipped? The other two Siva and Vishnu are worshipped.If at all, how many famous temples are there for Brahma? What are the prayer slokas on Brahma? Do anybody pray to Brahma? Is it not logical to pray to Brahma for the blessings of having children, as he is the srushti kartah?

    Asuras are reported to have prayed to Brahma and got many "Varams.Even Devas pray to Brahma .".Why humans are not praying to Brahma?

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    Brahma, supposedly, stopped being worshipped in India since the puranic times.

    There is a story in the Varaha purana -- it says that sage Brighu found Brahma unfit for worship and cursed him that he no longer wud be worshipped.

    There are very few temples for Brahma in India, some temples are mentioned here: Brahma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    However, Brahma continues to be worshipped in Thailand and Cambodia. Probably the early settlers there had some connection with the ancient asshur tribes.

    Reg the asura-deva stuff, perhaps this might intrest you: The Vedic Religion in Ancient Iran and Zarathushtra

    Regards.
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    I think Brahma is the form of knowledge, which we should search inside us and not exactly outside.

    It is in relation with that only the story of arunachala came. Mind and money fight with ecah other to see god. Mind thinks always high about it, filled with superiority complex and never accepts the truth. It always want to argue. Money thinks of cheap ways to attain the destination. When money leaves the man, he will realise. But, knowledge never leaves and hence, its superiority complex always fight. The knowledge source is brahma (who takes form of a swan and goes upper), vishnu is the money source (who takes form of a boar and goes downwards). Both of them failed in their jobs. Because, with the pure soul only, god can be seen.

    Yes HH ji... There was a sect called "Airammadhas", whose people worshipped brahma as their superior god. Brahma is worshipped even now in form of intellect I think.

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    pann kalikkum kural veenaiyum kaiyum payodharamum
    mann kalikkum pachai vannamum aghi mathangar kula
    penngalil thondria emperumaatithan perazhage

    (Abirami Andhadhi)
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    Sri.Durga Dasan,

    How would you consider Muneeswaran, katteri, saptha kanni, Ayanaar worship? Would they come under 'much unknown Gods', please?. Thanks.

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    Yes. Yes. Raghy ji. I wonder about the worship of "Saptha mathrukas" always. I always worship them. But their specific temples and manthras are unknown. I heard that there are 7 temples around Mayiladuthurai, where sapthamathrukas worshipped Shiva.

    I dont know much about katteri and Muneeswaran. But our family deity itself is Ayyanar with his consorts Poorna and Pushkala. So, know about him.

    Pranams

    Am eagerly waiting for much more gods and goddesses.
    Kann Kalikkumpadi kandukonden Kadambadaviyil
    pann kalikkum kural veenaiyum kaiyum payodharamum
    mann kalikkum pachai vannamum aghi mathangar kula
    penngalil thondria emperumaatithan perazhage

    (Abirami Andhadhi)
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    Sri.Durga Dasan,

    In our village we call 'saptha Kanni' pooja. It is very simple. No mantras that I know of. Just seven objects are placed (usually 7 bricks, standing upright!); washed with water, washed with turmeric water then Kunkumam applied. Offerings like beatle leaves, bananas, coconut, rice and whatever more fruits can be offered; in the extensive case, pongal is cooked over there and offered followed by just a prayer as the person can think of. Usually the pooja takes place at the noon (most kids are threatened against taking away the banana and coconut offerings to our dismay!). The offerings are made well away from the village. Mostly done by non-brahmins.

    Muneeswaran is a similar deal. Only three bricks standing upright with all the works. Pongal is mandatory (even now at home I call the pongal without cashew nuts as 'muneeswaran pongal!). Before every harvest Muneeswaran gets his pongal. Muneeswaran does not accept pongal from caste brahmins! (How is that! ). So, all the brahmins in the village (not many of them though), depended upon non-brahmin ladies to conduct the pongal offerings. Usually done at the farm.

    I do not know about all the details about the Kaateri pooja. Usually done by ladies, well away from the village, conducted after 10 PM. Boys and men are banned any where near the site. I haven't got a clue how it was done. Sorry.

    Cheers!
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    Dear Raghy ji

    I heard of "muniyodharayan pongal". But first time hearing Muneeswaran pongal. But saptha matha worship I think some more procedures are there. I know some manthras of them. Their Gayathris, their dhyanas. They are much powerful. Their incarnation and other infos come in Devi Mahatmya. Saptha mathrukas possess a great place in devi pooja.

    Pranams

    By the way in our kuladeivam temple of a mariamman, we have Rakkayi amman and Pechayi amman. (I think that Rakkayi is Yakshi and Pechayi is shri saraswathi- PECHU+AYI= vageeswari. If pechiyayi is considered as saraswathi, there should be some relationship between Rakkayi and Lakshmi also I think).

    The gods Veerabadra, Bairava, Kali, etc are there na in our list. But these gods are under Ugra devathas list

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    Kann Kalikkumpadi kandukonden Kadambadaviyil
    pann kalikkum kural veenaiyum kaiyum payodharamum
    mann kalikkum pachai vannamum aghi mathangar kula
    penngalil thondria emperumaatithan perazhage

    (Abirami Andhadhi)
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    In each village , there is at least one village deity in Tamilnadu. We also celebrated in our village the festival of Muthalamman(Goddess). Kattu-Naykars worship Goddess Jakkamma. They also do secret rituals and claims they have mystical power.

    At the time of Adi shankaracharya, there were numorous gods worshiped in India. He consolidated Hinduism and created agamas for six gods Ganesh, surya, Vishnu, shiva, Kumara, and Devi. He also effectively turned back the popularity of Buddhism and Jainism in India.
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