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    thank you all..
    is there possibility that roma rishi is actually plato?
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    Quote Originally Posted by charioteer View Post
    Thank you very much govind sir, main a sir.
    But that is OK for high-level thinkers
    How can we relate to our daily life this great verse.
    For ex, By this I may stay back thinking about my " self " , when someone got raped/ killed.
    How to take this extraordinary define scriptures to postmodern mindset?
    Shri Charioteer,

    Excuse me for my response to your query addressed to Shri Govinda.

    That Upanishadic verse (pooranamadaH poornamidam...) has very little relevance or applicability in our daily (worldly) life. Most of the Upanishads are like mild rebuttal of the then prevalent vedic religious belief, which was centred on different types (kinds) of sacrificial rites (yAgAs) and the attendant animal sacrifices. Some enquiring minds/intellects possibly started pondering over the question whether such indiscriminate killing of animals and burning of the so-called sacred fires, etc., were really meaningful methods of "worship" and if not, what was the right way and what was it that was to be really "worshipped". Their enquiries led them to different conclusions possibly, but those people made a record of their thought processes and/or conclusions and these became the Upanishads and gained a place of respect within the fold of hindu scriptures.

    Even brahmins did not study all the Upanishads by rote; for example most yajurvedi smaarthaa tamil brahmins compulsorily studied, by rote, the first three "vallees" of the Taittiriya Upanishad only. Those who understood the apparent literary meaning of this sanskrit text comprised only a small percentage of the said learners and those who had in-depth knowledge of the upanishad were really few.

    The verse you have cited viz., pooranamadaH poornamidam...etc. appear as the śānti mantra (peace invoking mantra) in the Brihadaaranyakopanishad and the Isaavaasyopanishad. It kind of summarises the idea that there is but one true reality (or, only a single truth) underlying all the visible world/universe which we experience through our organs of sense and action, and that the very same reality or truth inhabits our physical bodies and actuates us. It adds that both the absolute reality and the actuating force within us is full and complete - each in its own respect - and that though the latter (the actuating force within us) emanates or arises from the single reality, that single reality never gets diminished from its state of complete fullness.

    The above concept is not very difficult to understand and internalize. But the brahmins who were the preservers of hinduism possibly interpreted it to mean that the absolute reality or Brahman manifests completely only in brahmins, etc. They could not, or rather did not, concede the point that the very same brahman manifests equally in the most saintly and venerable brahmana as also in the most cruel, sinful, chandaala. Today, the above upanishad mantra can be put to best use by each one of us understanding and accepting that the same Brahman, the single reality, is present in every human being and therefore trying to dislodge all kinds of partialities and bias against other human beings based on skin colour, caste, creed/religion, nation, culture, etc.

    Perhaps another use of the above mantra may be to abjure food of animal origin. But this is a grey area because even plants have been found to have emotions and reactions and food of some kind is inevitable for man in order to survive.
    एकं सद्विप्रा नैव जानन्ति ।
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    I think this way even a common man can understand it better of the above slokha.

    Example 1:
    Air in the atmosphere.

    Fill up a thousand baloon with the air. The air in the environment does not reduce. Let off all the air from those baloons to the environment. The atmosphere is not having increased amount of air. It remains same by taking it or filling it.

    Example 2 : Same for solar energy

    Example 3 : For Aatma also.

    From Paramaatmaa Jeevatmaas have come. HE/SHE/IT whatever way you perceive it remains always same. By some Great Saints Jeevaatma joining back Parmaatmaa does not become more than what Paramaatmaa is.

    I have understood Ishavashya Upanishad slokha like this.

    Prof.D.V.R.Rajakumar
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