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Gothra Pattika - Gothra Pravaram - Gotra names and related

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List of Rishis, Their known Gotra lineage - The Gothra root is same irrespective of Sect or Sub-sect in all Brahmins.


Please add the respective Rishis name from the given table, and other details in the blank spaces to complete the Abhivathana.


(1) Abivathaye,
(2) _______ _______ ______ (Names of respective Gothra Rishis, as applicable as one, two, three, five or seven Rishis)
(3) ____________ (Choose one as applicable Eka Risheya, Dhwayarsheya, Thrayaa Risheya,Pancha Risheya,Saptha Risheya),
(4) Pravaraanvitha:
(5) _______________ Soothra (Abasthampa Soothra/ Bhodhayana Soothraa),
(6) _______________ (Yaajusha/Samo/Rg) Gaathyaathi
(7) ________________ Gothrasya
(8) ______________________ (your name)
(9) sarmaNa: aham asbibho.


How did the people thousands of years ago realize that genetically there was transference of some unique characteristics only from father to son (in the form of Y-chromosomes) ? In recent past when it was fashionable to condemn all Indian traditional systems as of no value, non-believers have referred to 'Gothra' as archaic, unscientific, irrelevant and male chauvinistic! The Scientifically proven factor DNA type test and assertions are more closer to the Gotra lineage matters. And to the Vedic line state nothing less than what your researchers & scientists speaking about!

Modern DNA & genetic research has confirmed male line Y-chromosomal transference. 'Gothra' in essence really stands for Y-chromosomal identity.

In a classic example,Buddha, named Siddhartha was of 'Gowthama Gothra'.. It means that his Y-chromosomes were probably from Rig-Vedic Rishi 'Gowthama Rahoogana'.

Nearly 2500 years have passed since death of Lord Buddha, but many 'Gowthama Gothra' individuals exist even today. They can claim genetic relation to Buddha. Typically 4 generations occur in 100 years and in 2500 years nearly 100 generations are complete. Other 'Gothra' chains may have run 100-200 generations from Vedic period if male lineage did continue unbroken. Do Y-chromosomes remain intact after, say 100 generations of unbroken male issues? Genetic mutations may or may not have changed some Y-chromosomes. The Gotra lineage is the one aspect that is very interesting field of research for future to see if persons of same 'Gothra' in the present generations have common and unique Y-chromosomal features. Only deep study with dedicated research could bring about the truth, that Vedic Era findings are certainly more authentic and scientific one that our forefathers relied aptly.
In conclusion, considering the above, no doubt, the Gotra lineage and DNA roots, probably, are one and the same way to find out the Family tree from the roots!
 
How did the people thousands of years ago realize that genetically there was transference of some unique characteristics only from father to son (in the form of Y-chromosomes) ? In recent past when it was fashionable to condemn all Indian traditional systems as of no value, non-believers have referred to 'Gothra' as archaic, unscientific, irrelevant and male chauvinistic! The Scientifically proven factor DNA type test and assertions are more closer to the Gotra lineage matters. And to the Vedic line state nothing less than what your researchers & scientists speaking about!

Modern DNA & genetic research has confirmed male line Y-chromosomal transference. 'Gothra' in essence really stands for Y-chromosomal identity.

Shri Yagnesh,

It seems to me that you are "re-inventing the wheel" by extolling the gotra system as far as this Forum is concerned. The archives, if you have some patience, will reveal long and very well-informed discussions about Gotras, whether they really indicate patriliney, what relevance has the gotra concept in today's world, gotras of children born out of inter-caste marriages, and so on. Kindly try to search the archives.

I wish to give below my views about Gotras.

1. Gotras do not at all indicate patriliney.

2. It is more probable that gotra indicates a tribal unit of the very olden days and since this tribal gotras were very important when those tribals were adsorbed into the vedic fold, people continued to identify themselves by their (erstwhile, tribal) gotras.

3. In some tribal societies all men and women are considered as siblings and so marriages within people of the same tribe; while sex is freely allowed within some tribes, the offsprings born outside married family are considered "common property" and the whole tribe is held responsible for bringing up those children.

4. But when a tribal "marries" (usually it is a girl from another tribe and in many cases, the girl is forcibly kidnapped, brought to the man's tribe and then married) a woman, the children born to this couple are their but again, the tribal identity is paramount, and not the patriliney or matriliney.

5. Our btahmin gotras are not strictly Y-chromosome business either, because we have gotras in the names of different ṛṣis from the same lineage, for example kuśika (grandfather of viśvāmitra — kauśika gotra), viśvāmitra : atri, śyāvāśva (atri’s grandson) : aṅgiras, gautama (aṅgiras’ son) : kaśyapa, vasiṣṭha (grandson of kaśyapa), parāśara (grandson of vasiṣṭha). There are many more such examples. BTW, you will now understand that gautama gotra does not relate to gautama, the Buddha but to a vedic ṛṣi. If you are familiar with the story of Ahalyaa, possibly you should know that her husband was also one gautama and he was King Janaka's priest.

While, I appreciate your enthusiasm in bringing your knowledge before the Forum and the effort you have obviously put in, in preparing the pravaras, it may interest you to know that for the same gotra, the pravara changes with the sūtra which one is born in.


 
Namaste Yagnesh,

According to Bhagawata Purana, Ikshvaku dynasty-lineage is mentioned, somewhere between Ikshvaku and Lord Rama, Sage Vashishta is Progeniator via Niyoga. So that means Y-chromosome is changed-corrupted-elevated but definitely that of Ikshvaku.

Dear Readers, please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks,
Jai SiyaRaam
 
The ultimate blasphemy may be to say did Rama have any Y-chromosome from Dasratha.
Similarly did pandavas have any Y-chromosome from Pandu?
Then again Rama was not Brahmin.

It is a nice trick to mix facts with untruth and present it in so that people accept everything presented as truth.
 
The phylogenetic analysis of the caste populations of India showed that Iyer and Iyengar showed close affinity with Indo–Aryans (West Bengal Brahmin, upper class; Mahisya, middle class; and Bagdi). Historians such as Jagabandhu Singh have referenced the Padma Purana and the Brahmavaibarta Purana to conclude that the Mahishyas and Kaivarttas (Kaibarttas) are the same caste.[SUP][/SUP] In general terms, a child born of a Kshatriya father and Vaishya mother is called a Kaivartta or Mahishya.
 
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