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    if one doesn't gain the above knowledge , it is best not to self-study our scriptures you need a help of a guru for your studies on shruti,smriti or purana to gain benefit.

    if not, not only one confuse himself he set on to confuse others too.
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    arnagirayar vakku deiva vakku, war-god , deva senapathy muruganin arul kodai.

    please reflect on the nadai of thirupugah it is vega nadai, like an army on the march, if war-god blesses poetry to a poet , it will come in that manner only. I strongly believe the works by arunagirinathar is not of mere human intelligence, it is divine intelligence , deiva vakku.

    for current day researchers anything divine is out of there context so they see only at there level and arrive at there own conclusion ...

    did kumara sambhavam of kalidasa talks about the role of ganapathy ?

    brhamanas pathi - means Lord of everything , why can't it be vinayaga.

    Afterall it is Lord Shiva who want to take a form representing all creatures of his creation and become ganaapathy , mahaperiyaval says this in deivathin kural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikrama View Post
    For the history of Vinayaka worship in Tamilnadu see my blog. http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/blogs/v...2975-3009.html
    If you are a staunch believer in Vinayaka, please do not visit it.
    Dear Vikrama

    It is highly possible that Vinayaga worship entered into much later periods. So I don't see an issue there. Hope u read my other blogs on how I tranlsate the Ganapati sloka in Rg Veda.

    http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/share-y...-ganapati.html

    In my view Ganapati (the lord of our actions, our brain) is a manifestation of Brahamanaspati (Lord of evolution). Brahmanaspati became the Ganapati in later days. (This is also according to Aurobindo).

    In the Puranic times, when vedic dieties were personified, idolized and seen as 'dieties', Ganapati worship would have started and slowly spread across India.

    Ganesa is present in Indian arts and coinage even in 2nd century AD. But even Kalidasa's works do not refer to Ganesa. (May be they were still older). But that does not negate anything that I am writing.

    -TBT
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    Quote Originally Posted by sangom View Post
    Your blog is timely and informative. But I think TBT is on a different path altogether; a great mansion without the base structure of good knowledge about vedas, Tamil saivite scriptures, etc.
    Dear Sangom

    Diversity is the hall-mark of Sanatana Dharma. So many interpretations and understandings of the same.

    How much one has read the vedic scriptures and has a strong grounding is relative. I have spent a significant time of my life in that research.

    So before I would comment on someone, if that person has an understanding, I would look at how much time I spent in understanding them. How much of my knowledge is hear-say, how much is taught, how much time I spent in my life in it.

    Even if other person does not have the sastric grounding as much as I am, as the Great Valluvan said, I would consider "Epporul yaar yaar vai ketpinum, apporul meiporul kanbathu arivu".

    Hope u agree..

    -TBT
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    Quote Originally Posted by HARE RAMA HARE KRISHNA View Post
    Consciousness is ever present, ever potent, ever awoke , all prevading , without second principle.

    Life and death is not for Consciousness may be only for buddhi / andhakaranam.

    Consciousness is that which say that " you" had a good sleep when your buddhi awoke after a good sleep.

    reflect on deep sleep state, you buddhi is totally switched off when you awoke you are having a good feeling of having slept well. Who or what is the witness of your deep sleep state cannot be your buddhi as it is completely switched off. something subtler than buddhi , the consciousness , the saakshi , tells you that you had a good sleep .

    like sleep and wake stage is birth and death, consciousness is the witness , it neither lives nor dies... it is immutable ever present and the principle behind every thing .

    in a dream state "YOU" create your own stage , props and actors like wise in wake stage too all the props like DNA,MITOCHONDRIA, BODY and BRAINS are the Consciousness creation.

    Consciousness is everpresent from time immemorial. there is no begining and end to "YOU -con" . all the appearance and disappearance arise from " you-con" and subside in "YOU".
    -- so says the VEDANTA (THE FINAL KNOWLEDGE).

    "chitananda roopam SIVO HAM"
    I think, I agree with what u wrote here..
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    Quote Originally Posted by HARE RAMA HARE KRISHNA View Post
    arnagirayar vakku deiva vakku, war-god , deva senapathy muruganin arul kodai.

    please reflect on the nadai of thirupugah it is vega nadai, like an army on the march, if war-god blesses poetry to a poet , it will come in that manner only. I strongly believe the works by arunagirinathar is not of mere human intelligence, it is divine intelligence , deiva vakku.

    for current day researchers anything divine is out of there context so they see only at there level and arrive at there own conclusion ...

    did kumara sambhavam of kalidasa talks about the role of ganapathy ?

    brhamanas pathi - means Lord of everything , why can't it be vinayaga.

    Afterall it is Lord Shiva who want to take a form representing all creatures of his creation and become ganaapathy , mahaperiyaval says this in deivathin kural.
    Is Brahmanaspaty = Vinayaga..? - YES, I think so and that is what I have been saying. Brahamanaspati means the lord of evolution (Brahman = expansion, evolution). Lord of evolution is our brain.

    So if u thoughts are addressed to me, I think probably we are saying the same thing, from different perspectives..
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    Quote Originally Posted by HARE RAMA HARE KRISHNA View Post
    if one doesn't gain the above knowledge , it is best not to self-study our scriptures you need a help of a guru for your studies on shruti,smriti or purana to gain benefit.

    if not, not only one confuse himself he set on to confuse others too.
    I am not against Gurus.

    But for long, this has 'faulty logic' been used to suppress research and original understanding of scriptures in India. If Sankara followed it, we would not have Sankara today. If Ramanuja followed it, we would not have him today.

    When Sankara lived, history records that the Brahmins of his time opposed him. When Ramanuja lived, it was the same. When their thoughts gained currency over a long period, now they are reverred. Same with Jesus or any such person who drives change in society.

    You (and me) are too small to confuse anything anywhere. The evolution is far bigger than all of us and we make negligible impact in its ways. Evolution makes sure the right thoughts sustain or we consider the thoughts that sustain as right.

    Do not fear confusions and going in the wrong path. No path is wrong in this world.

    In every good there is a bad, in every bad there is a good.

    -TBT
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