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Who was tolkappiyar?

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WHO WAS TOLKAPPIYAR?

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There is an interesting story about Tolkappiar in the commentary written by Nachinarkkiniar (abbreviated as Nachi.) Nachi was a Brahmin who lived in 14[SUP]th[/SUP] century Tamil Nadu. He wrote commentary after commentary like the greatest commentator of India, Adi Shankara. Nobody has beaten Adi Shankara in Sanskrit and Nachi in Tamil. Nachi was a Tamil enthusiast and so he believed Tolkappiam was written even before the Vedas were classified in to four by Veda Vyasa. So he committed many blunders. In spite of his blunders, still he is held in high esteem by all the Tamil scholars for his sheer qualitative and quantitative Tamil commentaries.

(Kanchi Paramacharya Swamikal has pointed out the blunder committed by Nachi. without naming him in one of his lectures. See his 1932 lectures in Madras)

Tolkappiyar’s name was Trnadumagni and he was one of the 12 disciples of Agastya was the old story. Agastya’s wife was Lopamudra.

Now I give the version of PT Srinivasa Iyengar’s translation from his book “History of the Tamils”, page 224)

“ The worst myth is what what Nachinarkiniyar tells us in his commentary on the prefatory ode to the Tolkappiyam, called Payiram, that Agathiyanar asked his disciple, Trnadumagni, to escort the master’s wife, Lopamudra of Vidarbha to the Podhiya Hill. He at the same time warned his disciple not to approach his wife nearer than the length of four rods. When Trnadumagni and Lopamudra had to cross the river Vaigai, the river was in flood, and fearing that she would be washed away by the river, he extended his walking stick to her and asked her to cling to it. He thus isobeyed his master’s solemn injunctions, for in crossing the river, he was but one rod’s length from her.The irate master, when he heard of this, exclaimed, “ May you two not reach Swarga”. The pupil in turn said, “ As you have cursed us for no fault of ours, may you not reach svarga”. This legend was invented perhaps to explain the fact tht the Agathiyam has perished, where as the Tolkappiyam has not.”

My Comments:

People who wanted to date Tolkappiyar must remember certain facts:
1. The Payiram says that it was launched at the court of Nilam Tharu Thiru Vil Pandyan in front of the teacher Athangottu Asan, who was well versed in the four Vedas.
2. Tolkappiar’s Tamil is not very far from Sangam Tamil. So there was not a big gap between the two.
3. Tolkappiayar mentined Vedic Gods Indra and Varuna as Tamils’ Gods. He also mentioned Dharma Artha Kama Moksha (Aram Porul Inbam Veedu).
4. He also mentioned the pamyra flag of Balarama, Krishna’s brother.
5. He used the word Adhikaram for the the three sections like Tirukkural and Sillpadikaram.
6. If anyone argues any of the above as interpolation then we have to reconsider everything in Tolkappiyam. We are shaking the very foundations of Tamil. My guess is, if given into computer, his vocabulary will show that he belongs to 5[SUP]th[/SUP] century or fourth century AD. No body dared to probe into this for the fear being dubbed as a Tamil Traitor.
7. If he was proved to be a Brahmin belonging to Kappiya Gotra and his original name was Trna Dumagni or Trna Bindu, he must be the person who invented the special Tamil letter (247[SUP]th[/SUP] in Tamil Alphabet known as Aytha Ezuthu). Trna Bindu means Three Dots= Aytha Ezuthu of Tamil language.

Please read DID TOLKAPPIYAR COPY SANSKRIT BOOKS? In the second part: London swami. Contact [email protected]
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Knowledge is timeless..so anytime is a good time.

It is not knowledge, but useless debate over events of centuries past which cannot be proven 100% until a time machine is invented.

Perhaps there are more fruitful things to invest our time in....
 
It is not knowledge, but useless debate over events of centuries past which cannot be proven 100% until a time machine is invented.

Perhaps there are more fruitful things to invest our time in....


What is useful for one person might be useless for another person.

So usefulness and uselessness is subjective.

There is nothing in this world which is 100% useful or 100% useless.

To have fruits in life we need trees.

So the trees of past knowledge and information bears the fruits of the present and future.
 
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Thanks for your comments.
Renuka is right in saying

"What is useful for one person might be useless for another person.

So usefulness and uselessness is subjective.

There is nothing in this world which is 100% useful or 100% useless".

But my point is to expose some people who are cheating and misleading the Tamil community. It is always good to see the other side of the coin.

 
Nobody stops one from pursuing pressing issues - coalgate, nG scam, thorium debacle, bangladeshi illegal entry, missionaries, conversion, looting brigade, jihad terror - the list will be endless, like hanuman's tail.

Are these really the pressing issues of the 21st century ?
 
Thanks for your comments.
Renuka is right in saying

"What is useful for one person might be useless for another person.

So usefulness and uselessness is subjective.

There is nothing in this world which is 100% useful or 100% useless".

But my point is to expose some people who are cheating and misleading the Tamil community. It is always good to see the other side of the coin.

Mr.Swaminathan , kindly continue your work and keep sharing your inputs in this forum . Along with Sanskrit ,I am interested in learning Tamil ( I can speak and read Tamil but very poor when it comes to writing Tamil and Understanding Tamil Classics ) and also about the great Tamil Scholars of the past as well as the present . I consider both Tamil as well as Sanskrit very important languages that any Tamil Brahmin must know to tap the rich resources that are available in them on various subjects like Spirituality , Yoga ,Medicine , Astrology , Vastu Shastra ,Ethics ,Epics,Music ,Martial Arts etc etc .
BTW I just went through your blog congratulate on your efforts .I will share your blog with some close friends /relatives of mine who are interested in this subject .
 
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