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    pumsavanam and seemantham.

    Requirements for pumsavanam and seemantham:
    Turmeric powder 50 gram; sandalwood powder 10 gram; kumkumam 10 gram; plantain fruit 25;Betel nut 100 grams; betel leaf 200; plantain leaf 6; thodutha pushpam 5 meters; mango leaf bunch 10; ghee 500 grams; haaram for the Aala mokku 6 nos; couple 2; for brass kudam 1; wheat 2kg; raw rice 2 kg; black gram 300 grams; gingilly seeds 100 grams; vraaty 10 nos; sraai thool 2 kilo; cow's milk 200 milli; scented sticks 1 pocket; camphor 1 pocket; Brass kudam 1; vasthram for brass kudam 1; Bell 1; aasana palagai or thadukku 8 nos; visiri 1; kuthu vilakku1; oil for deepam and thiri and match box; Vasthram for aalamokku paal piliya; pethy leaf bunch 1; panri mul 1; paady 50 grams well drenched in water a day before; Veena music CD 1; pancha pathra uthirini 1; elakkai; pachai kalpooram vilamichai root; krambu; coconut 6 nos; ammi kulavi 1; sambhavanai for the kanya girl who crushed the aaalamokku; small brass sombu for punyahavachanam; to be continued
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    permission=anuggai; ganapathy pooja; begining graha preethi; 4 or 8 sastrigals for udaga shanthi; udaga shanthi japa dakshinai; vichinnaoupaasana agni santhanam; oupaasanam; pumsavana seemantha anuggai; graha preethi; naandhi; punyahavachanam; prathisara bandhanam; groom vadhyar and bride 's father's sambhavanai ; haarathi; phaladhanam;

    Pregnancy 5th month: The pregnant lady used to go to her parents house; caster oil will be given to her there; Black colour will be given to her .Then bangles wearing in the bride.s house; groom family will go there to attend the function; In the eightth month pumsavanam seemantham will be performed in the groom's house.

    Bride's father family will bring pattu paai; paruppu thengai; dhothy; saree ;blouse; swwets and savoury; money ; fruits; flowers; thaamboolam etc; to the groom's house and will attend the function. Groom's sister will purchase one saree for the pregnant lady. Only on the next day after seemantham the bride will go to her parent's house; Udhaga shanthi ; prathisarabandhan and nandhi will be done on the previous day . seemantham will be done on the auspicious day;.. Sambandhi mariaathaiy will be done to the bride's father by the groom's father.
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    pumsavanam and seemantham.

    Dear Sri Gopalan,


    Nice to have posted a message on "Pumsavanam and Seemantham". Could you please give the reasons behind the kriya " kanya girl crushing the aaalamokku"?

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    In Rituals ceremonies and poojas thread page.no 11. I have given details about pumsavanam and seemantham valai kappu is ladies function. generally we are doing in the eighth month.Days:monday,wednesday,Thursday and friday. Thithi: dwetiyai;thrithiyai;panchami;sapththami;dasami;thr ayodasi, chathurdasi pournami; Stars: aswathi;rohoni; mirigasiridam;punarpoosam;poosam; uthiram;hastham;chithrai;swathi;anusham;moolam;uth radam;thiruvonam;avittam;sadayam;uthratadhi,and revathy; Lagnam: Except simham and virischigam all other ten lagnams are o.k.

    The 8th house from lagnam must be clean without any planet. kasaram should not be there. Thara palam and chandra palam must be there.

    Udhaka shanthy with 6 sastrigals must be done and prathisara bandham=for ladies one thread should be tied in the left hand.

    For more details you may buy the book 40 samskarangal written by Srivatsa somadeva sarma and published by surab hi sathguru sathapthi publications 158/12 Lake view road west mambalam.also availabvle in giri traading and in bavani book centre.



    In the SABHARI sudha thiruganitha panchangam they have written as follows for valai kappu: Stars: rohini,mirugtasirsham,punrpoosam,poosam,uthiram,ha stham,uthiradam,thiruonam, uthiratadhi, and revathy. Thithi: thiruthiyai,panchami,sapthami, ekadasi,thrayodasi. All lagnams except simham, and virischigam. The 8th and 9 th place must be without any planets from that lagnam .Thara palam and chandra palam must be there. This must be done only in the aarohana time of sun That is before twelve o clock the function must be celebrated.

    valai kappu can be celebrated in the month of aadi.
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    Udhaka saanthi: permission; ganesa pooja; sankalpam for udhaka shanthi ; place some paady or wheat on the old news paper and place another news paper place some raw rice; place the kudam duly filled with water,elakkai; krambu; pachai kalpooram etc; put one vasthram on the kudam; haaram; apply sandal paste and kumkumam; place mango bunch leaf; koorcham; and coconut.

    request 8 or 6 or 4 sastrigals to chant udhaga shanti mantras i.e. aayul increasing manthras, jayadhi manthram; sraddha sooktham; brahma sooktham; nakshathra sooktham, bhavamana sooktham etc; will be chanted by the sastrigals. this will take 3 hours. Then prokshanam and/or abishekam to the pregnant lady.

    Then prathisara bhandham= for ladies in the left hand one yellow colour twine nool will be knotted with manthras. (kankanam kattikolluthal) For this navagraha preethi dakshinai; one small brass sombu with water adorned woth nool; mango leaf bunch; coconut; sandal paste; kumkumam;; above wheat and rice place this sombu; requset atleast 4 sastrigals to chant manthras for prathisar bandham . place a nool on the north of sombu above rice the nool pasted with turmeric powder.

    sastrigals will chant pavamaana sooktham; varuna sooktham; rudhra sooktham; Brahma sooktham; vishnu sooktham; durga sooktham; sri sooktham etc; and then 3 times chanting namo brahmanae; varunan yatha sthaanam. Then chant surabimathi manthram and ablingathi manthram prokshanam to the nool;Then take veebhuthi and apply to the thread by chanting thryambagam yajamahe 3 times.

    then sastrigal will chant 5 manthras agniraayushman etc; by touching the hand then the palm will be filled with rice and fruit and by chanting brahat sama manthram the thread will be knotted in the left hand. by the husband.

    Then after wearing the veebhuthi duly chanted with manthras donate dhakshinai to the sastrigals. This may be done in the previous day or on the same day as per your convenience.

    Then get permission to do bhumsavanam; ganapathy pooja ; vischinnagni santhanam; aupaasanam; and homam in the aupaasanagni.

    paathra sadhanam along with aala mara leaf 2 with 2 aalankai;or aala mara fruit; ; If poosible the aala mara fruit must be picked from the north or east direction of the aala maram. (It is possible only in villages in india). As this is public forum I am giving this information.

    Then homam with four manthras and then another homam with4 manthras then jayadhi homam; . Then do graha prrethi dakshina;

    Any girl before puberty must grind the aalan kolundhu in an ammi and put it in a new vasthram . pregnant lady must sit down facing east; her husband must stand facing west chant the manthra bhusavanamasi with his thumb in the vasthram spin the vasthram in the right nostril .
    to be continued

    Then sangalpam for naandhi sratham. Sathya vasu viswedevar 2 sastrigals;pithru varga females 2 satrigals; pithru varga males 2 sastrigals. then mathru vargam 2 sastrigals; then maha vishnu 2 sastrigals; donate them raw rice; green gram dhall plantain kaai; vasthram;thamboolam and dhakshinai according tom the financial status of the individual;

    Then punyahavachanam. Then get permission for seemantham graha preethi and with the help of panri mul; pethi leaf bunch; dharbhai vahudu prikka vendum in the head.

    Homam with above said 8 manthras and then do jayaathi homam and then praayaschitha homam . do graha preethi wife must sit down facing east husband facing west do vahudu prithal with manthras. Then do phala dhaanam to brahmins, homa upasthaanam aasirvatham and aarathi
    othi iduthal mariyathai to sambandhi.

    Instrumental music veena cd or dvd can be played. by hearing this the child will have sangeetha gnanam.
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    VALAI KAPPU: This function is conducted in the girl's house.when the girl will be adorned with a variety of bangles. Now a days this is combined with seemantham which will be held in the boy's house. For 'Valai kappu ' different varieties of glass bangles , one pair of lac bangles, silver and gold kaapu ( available in jwellary shops) will be bought for the pregnant girl.

    Similar set of glass bangles will be purchased for another married girl who is yet to conceive.In addition a ring, made of neem leaves will be made for the use of the girl. This is mainly a ladies function. All the ladies and girls assembled for the occasion will be presented with 2 pairs of glass bangles each.

    There fore one should purchase in advance sufficient number of bangles in various sizes and colours. The girl will also be presented with a saree. On valai kappu day, the girl will be seated on a rangoli decorated plank facing east. An elderly lady or the mother of the girl will apply oil on her head and on her friend's head.

    After bath, the girl and her friend will be applied with sandal paste and turmeric, and offered kumkum and flowers. The girl and her companion will be given a light break fast, with sweet rice, pongal,chutney, kothsu etc; Then they will be adorned with bangles. The total number of bangles will be in odd numbers.

    THe invitees also will be presented with bangles. Some parents will utilise this occasion to present a set of gold bangles to the daughter.

    SEEMANTHAM: Seer to be given by the girl's parents.Pattu pai;paruppu thengai; kai murukku athirasam, mysore pak, laddu; ; fried gram (varu payaru); dress for the boy, saREE FOR THE GIRL; GARLANDS, FLOWERS, betel and betel nuts, fruits, sandal paste, kumkumam, manjal, pattu vasthram to make aala mokku juice, etc; The function includes preparing a juice with banyan flower buds.

    This job will be entrusted to some small girls, who will be guided by the elders, and given dhakshinai and thaamboolam. This juice will be put into the nostril of the expectant mother by her husband as part of the religious ceremony. Then aarthy and lunch.

    POOCHOODAL: In the evening, the girl will wear a saree gifted by the sister-in-law. She will also have an elobarate hairdo decorated with flowers, ( Jadai alankaaraam)etc; and seated on a chair surrounded by ladies, singing songs. As part of this programme , small appams and kolukatais are prepared.The girl will be asked to fold this in the pallu of her saree.

    A child will be asked to take out some of these. If appam comes, it will be taken as predicting the birth of female child otherwise male child. Veena music must be there. Aarthy will be performed. The girl will be taken to the parent's place the next day or on some other auspicious day but not on seemantham day.
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    Namaste Kgopalan Ji,

    Your details are pleasing to read as I am interested in performing this.

    Forgive me if my knowledge is not adequate, after conception a samskar must be performed during the 2-3 month of pregnancy correct? I have read that it involves tying a red cloth around the stomach of the pregnant woman. Can you kindly elaborate?

    Of course is this Samskar solely for a boy child? What about those who do not care about the gender but rather just the protection and well being of the fetus.
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    Dear Mr.Kgopalan,
    Pranams
    I am on the look out for the Namakarana Mantras for recitation on the ponniachanam for a new born male child of an foreign (Finland in europe) based Iyer couple. Could you kindly help?
    balavas
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    [QUOTE=Brahmanyan;69041]Dear Sri Gopalan,


    Nice to have posted a message on "Pumsavanam and Seemantham". Could you please give the reasons behind the kriya " kanya girl crushing the aaalamokku"?

    Dear Brahmanyan Sir

    I was also wondering about this aspect in Seemandham Function
    I got an answer from this link and hope it clears your doubt also.
    The word seemandham or Seemantham literally means the hair parting just above the eye brow. It is said that the Goddess of Wealth, Sri Mahalakshmi resides in that parting. This is one more reason to mention why the practice of applying Kumkum on the parting, as a manner of propitiating Goddess Sri Lakshmi. And when a woman delivers a child, she is considered the embodiment of Goddess Lakshmi Herself.

    There has been one underlying commonality amidst most pregnant women in India. Mostly, all the pregnant women as well as the entire family expect a male child, the first born to be a son. May be, the younger generations today are learning a bit to value a beautiful healthy baby for itself-and wish for only health and happiness for the child no matter what the gender is.


    Now, for the main function known as "seemandam" performed on a pre-fixed Muhurtham, an auspicious time is chosen to conduct this ritual. After the usual chores of house cleansing act known as punyavachanam and routine Agni Santhanam performance, the main function is held at the specified Muhurtham.


    On this specific occasion, they used to grind the tender leaves of Banyan tree which is in its formation, mixed with raw cold milk and make it to a paste. (This banyan leaves should be of fresh, tender in its cone shaped and not opened as a leave fully.) At some places, they add a few fresh tender fig tree leaves to this). The grinding of these leaves is to be done by two young girls below the age of 9 years known as Kanya - to state, the young girls who have not attained the puberty stage} This concoction essence would then be dropped in the pregnant would be mother's right nostril just by dropping through a silk cloth and the mother to be is asked to inhale instantly. Once inhaled, then a needle/quill of porcupine animal is taken from the head downward the navel, just slightly touching/lightly scratching the body portion.

    It is believed, this supposed to make the marking line for the inhaled (the banyan leave juice + the cow's raw milk) gum to travel to the womb. At this junction, a specific mantra is recited, which makes the route to the tube perfect as the vibration + the porcupine quill acting as nodal guiding act. Thus the inhaled essence of milk and banyan leave juice, forms like a paste and straightly carried to her womb. Because of some unknown chemical proposition and the dirt gathered inside from her last menstrual course, this paste settles in the child's stem cell and surrounds, which begin from the naval part. This paste is gradually become like a protective mask for the stem cell tube and strengthens its tube bottom base. As long as in the womb, it settles there till the child is born. Once out in the open air, the same gum getting dried very quickly in the open air, thus causing easy and automatic separation of the stem cell tube from the naval portion! And mostly, no scissors used to cut the stem cells, if the seemandam was performed with authentic and ritual way! It is also widely believed that the above is symbolically cleaving the delivery passage to open for an easy downward movement of the child and for a normal delivery.


    https://www.trsiyengar.com/id156.shtml



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmanyan View Post
    Dear Sri Gopalan,


    Nice to have posted a message on "Pumsavanam and Seemantham". Could you please give the reasons behind the kriya " kanya girl crushing the aaalamokku"?

    Regards,
    Brahmanyan,
    Bangalore.

    Dear Brahmanyan Sir

    I also got a similar doubt and got an answer from this link:
    The word seemandham or Seemantham literally means the hair parting just above the eye brow. It is said that the Goddess of Wealth, Sri Mahalakshmi resides in that parting. This is one more reason to mention why the practice of applying Kumkum on the parting, as a manner of propitiating Goddess Sri Lakshmi. And when a woman delivers a child, she is considered the embodiment of Goddess Lakshmi Herself.

    There has been one underlying commonality amidst most pregnant women in India. Mostly, all the pregnant women as well as the entire family expect a male child, the first born to be a son. May be, the younger generations today are learning a bit to value a beautiful healthy baby for itself-and wish for only health and happiness for the child no matter what the gender is.


    Now, for the main function known as "seemandam" performed on a pre-fixed Muhurtham, an auspicious time is chosen to conduct this ritual. After the usual chores of house cleansing act known as punyavachanam and routine Agni Santhanam performance, the main function is held at the specified Muhurtham.


    On this specific occasion, they used to grind the tender leaves of Banyan tree which is in its formation, mixed with raw cold milk and make it to a paste. (This banyan leaves should be of fresh, tender in its cone shaped and not opened as a leave fully.) At some places, they add a few fresh tender fig tree leaves to this). The grinding of these leaves is to be done by two young girls below the age of 9 years known as Kanya - to state, the young girls who have not attained the puberty stage} This concoction essence would then be dropped in the pregnant would be mother's right nostril just by dropping through a silk cloth and the mother to be is asked to inhale instantly. Once inhaled, then a needle/quill of porcupine animal is taken from the head downward the navel, just slightly touching/lightly scratching the body portion.

    It is believed, this supposed to make the marking line for the inhaled (the banyan leave juice + the cow's raw milk) gum to travel to the womb. At this junction, a specific mantra is recited, which makes the route to the tube perfect as the vibration + the porcupine quill acting as nodal guiding act. Thus the inhaled essence of milk and banyan leave juice, forms like a paste and straightly carried to her womb. Because of some unknown chemical proposition and the dirt gathered inside from her last menstrual course, this paste settles in the child's stem cell and surrounds, which begin from the naval part. This paste is gradually become like a protective mask for the stem cell tube and strengthens its tube bottom base. As long as in the womb, it settles there till the child is born. Once out in the open air, the same gum getting dried very quickly in the open air, thus causing easy and automatic separation of the stem cell tube from the naval portion! And mostly, no scissors used to cut the stem cells, if the seemandam was performed with authentic and ritual way! It is also widely believed that the above is symbolically cleaving the delivery passage to open for an easy downward movement of the child and for a normal delivery.





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