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    Dosha in Horoscope Meaning, significance and implications- Query

    Hi,

    I have a doubt. What is dosha in someone's horoscope. (related to matrimony). Suppose a boy's horoscope has two doshas, is the girl also supposed to have same number of doshas or less? I mean if the boy has 2 doshas and the girl has only 1 dosha, is an alliance recommended?

    On a related note, do shuddha jadakams have doshas?

    What does dosha mean? What is the significance? Does it affect the person's character, luck etc if the person is not married? Or are doshas to be considered only for marriage purposes?

    Warm Regards
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    There are a number of such aspects in a horoscope. When matching is done for boy and girl, wholesome study is made including do shams. So, it is really the study of well experienced astrologers , not on theory alone, that would analyse all good and bad pecks and com to a decision , which can be taken as correct.
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    ஆண் ஜாதகத்தில் 2 தோஷம் என்றால் பெண் ஜாதகத்தில் 1.5 தோஷம் இருக்கலாம். இத்ற்கு அதிகமாகவோ குறைவாகவோ இருக்ககூடாது.

    லக்கினம், 2,7,8,12 வீடுக்களில் பாப கிரகங்கள் ( சூரியன், செவ்வாய், சனி,இராகு) ஆண், பெண் இரு ஜாதகத்திலும் பாப ரகிஹங்கள் இருக்குமானால் ( ஒன்றோ அதற்கு மேலோ) மண வாழ்வில் தோஷம் விளைவிக்கும். இது லக்னதிலிருந்தும், ச்ந்திர ராசி யிலுருந்தும் சுக்கிர ராசியிலிருந்தும் பார்க்கபட வேண்டும்.

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    Quote Originally Posted by einsteinstutor View Post
    ........ On a related note, do shuddha jadakams have doshas?.....
    The horoscope without any dhOsham is known as 'shuddha jAthakam'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by einsteinstutor View Post
    Hi,

    I have a doubt. What is dosha in someone's horoscope. (related to matrimony). Suppose a boy's horoscope has two doshas, is the girl also supposed to have same number of doshas or less? I mean if the boy has 2 doshas and the girl has only 1 dosha, is an alliance recommended?

    On a related note, do shuddha jadakams have doshas?

    What does dosha mean? What is the significance? Does it affect the person's character, luck etc if the person is not married? Or are doshas to be considered only for marriage purposes?

    Warm Regards
    The concept of dosha related to matrimony was most important for brahmins mainly because, a widow was disfigured and treated as a virtual outcaste not eligible for a decent life. So, people were too keen to ensure that their daughters did not become widows.

    Towards this end, all points in a girl's horoscope which were potential threats to her living as a "sumangali" were called "doshams" or "pApams". As is the case with most branches of knowledge indigenous to India, the methods for ascertaining the doshams and matching a suitable male's horoscope became very many and the axioms also vary widely. The numerical grading of doshams is more dangerous because the astrologers tend to become highly mechanical in this method. I will not endorse this method.

    (Since divorce, remarriage, widow remarriage, etc., have now become accepted practice, I think this dosham concept need not now be given much importance, as we used to in the past.)

    Kuja dosham or Chevvai dosham is considered very bad in the south but it was not so in the North till some 100 years ago; kuja or mangal was not seen as such an evil-doer in those parts.

    In a nut shell, planets foreboding harm to the husband in the girl's horoscope should be matched - item by item - by equally strong dosham to the wife, in the boy's horoscope.

    For example, if the girl is born in Vrischika lagna and has mercury in the seventh house (without any ameliorating factors like Shubha drishti, etc.,) it is a very powerful indication of widowhood; so the boy's horoscope should show very long life and also dosha to wife.

    Similarly, a boy with Mesha lagna and venus in the second or seventh house will not have a long life. In such cases it should be ensured that the girl's horoscope has very long married life indicated strongly.

    It is a very vast subject and cannot be mastered unless one goes through at least a thousand pairs of horoscopes and studies very keenly.
    Last edited by sangom; 14-05-2013 at 07:42 PM.
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    Hey sangom,

    Good explanation. Not interested in going into the details. Just wanted to know the significance and basis. Thanks for your well conveyed answer.

    Best Wishes.

    P.S. I have posted a profile in the Brides Wanted section under Matrimonial forum. Please have a look and pass it around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by einsteinstutor View Post
    Hey sangom,............
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    Quote Originally Posted by sangom View Post
    The concept of dosha related to matrimony was most important for brahmins mainly because, a widow was disfigured and treated as a virtual outcaste not eligible for a decent life. So, people were too keen to ensure that their daughters did not become widows.

    Towards this end, all points in a girl's horoscope which were potential threats to her living as a "sumangali" were called "doshams" or "pApams". As is the case with most branches of knowledge indigenous to India, the methods for ascertaining the doshams and matching a suitable male's horoscope became very many and the axioms also vary widely. The numerical grading of doshams is more dangerous because the astrologers tend to become highly mechanical in this method. I will not endorse this method.

    (Since divorce, remarriage, widow remarriage, etc., have now become accepted practice, I think this dosham concept need not now be given much importance, as we used to in the past.)

    Kuja dosham or Chevvai dosham is considered very bad in the south but it was not so in the North till some 100 years ago; kuja or mangal was not seen as such an evil-doer in those parts.

    In a nut shell, planets foreboding harm to the husband in the girl's horoscope should be matched - item by item - by equally strong dosham to the wife, in the boy's horoscope.

    For example, if the girl is born in Vrischika lagna and has mercury in the seventh house (without any ameliorating factors like Shubha drishti, etc.,) it is a very powerful indication of widowhood; so the boy's horoscope should show very long life and also dosha to wife.

    Similarly, a boy with Mesha lagna and venus in the second or seventh house will not have a long life. In such cases it should be ensured that the girl's horoscope has very long married life indicated strongly.

    It is a very vast subject and cannot be mastered unless one goes through at least a thousand pairs of horoscopes and studies very keenly.
    sir, I agree that this is a vast and complicated subject. There are different versions by the Rishis, who are experts. Normally, we look at the placement of Venus, Raghu and Ketu and Saturn , the lord of the 7th house for men and the lords of the 7th and 8th houses in the cases of girls. In general malefic planets should not occupy the 2nd, 4th, 7th and 8th houses. Krishnamurthi Paddhathi stresses the importance of constellations ( nakshathram) in which the lord of the 7th/8th houses and venus are placed. Both the horoscopes of the boy and the girl must be examined in depth for this purpose. As Renuka said, suddha jathakam does not contain any doshas. But, the hard fact , of course difficult to digest, is that we miss something somewhere and the results are contrary to our predictions and in such cases the astrologers say that fate has clouded their judgement !
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    Quote Originally Posted by einsteinstutor View Post
    Hey sangom,
    Quote Originally Posted by Raji Ram View Post
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    Shmt. Raji Ram,


    I am also shocked. LOL!!

    This is the outcome of Globalized "Present Generation". May be in another couple of years, teenagers in India would call elders by their Name only, during their face-to-face interactions.
    Cheers.........


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    Quote Originally Posted by C RAVI View Post
    Shmt. Raji Ram,


    I am also shocked. LOL!!

    This is the outcome of Globalized "Present Generation". May be in another couple of years, teenagers in India would call elders by their Name only, during their face-to-face interactions.


    Quote Originally Posted by Raji Ram View Post
    . . .
    This is the outcome of Globalized "Present Generation". May be in another couple of years, teenagers in India would call elders by their Name only, during their face-to-face interactions.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

    ravi,

    i dont think this has anything to do with 'Globalized "Present Generation"'.

    this is just bad manners. someone has forgot to show einstein here how to address folks. chances are he is in india, as it is only in india, i have found some blatant disrespect. that has been my experience.

    as a rule, you will never see this in canada. i would also like to add usa and uk to the list.
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