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    Sri Appayya Dikshitar's Stotras are really very useful and effective. For e.g. Margabandhu Stotram
    composed by him, if chanted before proceeding on any journey, it wards off the evils or dangers,
    if any. He has many works based on advaita. His approach towards Lord Shiva and Vishnu as
    one and the same, for e.g. Hari Hara Stuti, Varadaraja Stavam. He always admires Vedanta Desikan.
    He envelops all the points related to Dvaita, Vishisdadvaita, Sivadvaita and Advaita.

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    but it is better to improve upon the way these things are done without offering any excuse/s. We must remember how Ekalwaya in Mahabaratha learned archery skill in the forest even to excel Archuna.
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    Ordinary human tendency is to do anything or have it done perfectly. Perfection is near impossible. Even in reciting slokas or perform pujas an average man would be careful not to make mistakes knowingly. It must also be in the individual to do so. All the same if somebody patters slokas in sincerity but makes mistakes in spelling or accenting unknowingly, god hears his mind and edits his prayers with a smile. One must do things in a better way as perfectly as possible. But it is our duty that we do not alienate the less informed from our stream as we are already thinning out.
    கற்றது கை மண் அளவு, கல்லாதது உலகளவு.
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    I totally agree with you as proper accent and sound is very important.
    From the vedic age, chanting of mantra has been given importance, because
    it helps in deepening the connection with the divine power. It also enables in
    concentration while meditation is practiced. It reduces stress and and paves
    way to improve the personal effectiveness besides it facilitates spiritual development.

    Balasubramanian
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    When a mantra is chanted in rhythmic tone with ups and downs, they create a melodious effect in the body . This effect can be defined as the Neuro-linguistic effect. The Neuro- linguistic effect will be possible even if you do not know the meaning of the mantra. Hence knowing the meaning of every mantra is not compulsory.

    Learn to chant mantras first and then learn the meanings later just like a baby
    speaks the words without knowing their meanings and then understanding
    their meanings


    At the same time if you know the meaning it has got an additional effect which is known as Neuro-linguistic (NLE) + Psycholinguistic effect (PLE). Lot of Research studies have been carried out by many and important results derived by one of the famous professors Dr. T. Temple Tutler, of the Cleveland University, USA on these effects are remarkable. The NLE and PLE effects are due to the production and spreading of curative chemicals in the brain. These curative chemicals give smoothening and curing effect in the body. Thus mantra chanting is no way a superstition. It can also be directly called as music therapy or mantra therapy in modern words.

    All are not proficient in reciting Mantras in Sanskrit; they can choose to listen to Mantras recited by others.

    There are times when we are compelled to recite Mantras Like in Marriages, Seemandham, or even home Pujas.

    It is advised to recite this at the end of the Puja or function

    Mantra Heenam, Kriya Heenam, Bhakti Heenam Mahesvaree
    Yat Poojitam Mayaa Deva, Pari Poornam Tadastu Te.


    Oh God, I am weak in mantra,
    Oh God, i am weak in action and
    oh God, i am weak in devotion;
    Yet, I know my humble attempt is accepted by Thy Grace.

    Mantra heenam kriya heenam bhakti heenam Sureshwara,
    Yad pujitam maya deva paripoornam tadastu te,
    Aparaadha sahasraani kriyante hanisham maya,
    Dasyoham iti mam matwa,
    Kshamaswa..

    we prostrate ourselves full length on the floor with this supplication

    I beg of you to make this puja of mine perfect
    Despite the mistakes I may have made in the chanting of the mantras,
    And the accompanying actions.
    Consider me as thy slave and forgive me Oh God.

    Akashaath patitam thoyam, yada gachati saagaraath,
    Sarva deva namaskaaram Keshavam pratigachati

    Just as all the water that falls from the sky reaches the ocean,
    So prostrations to any god will reach the Supreme.

    Avahanam na janaami, na janaami visarjanam,
    Puja vidhim na janaami....

    I have no idea how to conduct a puja, how to invoke you or to revoke you into myself. Pray forgive me for all this and make this puja perfect.



    Benefits of Mantra Chanting
    culture.religion.advaita - Re: chanting knowing the meaning whether necessary - msg#00195 - Recent Discussion OSDir.com
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    Effectiveness of Gayathri Mantra is given hereunder, which one of
    my friends has sent me through an email for the information of viewers.



    Om bhur bhuvah swah
    Tat savitur varenyam
    Bhargo devasya dheemahi
    Dhiyo yo nah pracho dayat


    The literal meaning of the mantra is:
    O God! You are Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Almighty, You are all Light. You are all Knowledge and Bliss. You are Destroyer of fear, You are Creator of this Universe, You are the Greatest of all. We bow and meditate upon Your light. You guide our intellect in the right direction.


    The mantra, however, has a great scientific importance too, which somehow got lost in the literary tradition. The modern astrophysics and astronomy tell us that our Galaxy called Milky Way or Akash-Ganga contains approximately 100,000 million of stars. Each star is like our sun having its own planet system. We know that the moon moves round the earth and the earth moves round the sun along with the moon. All planets round the sun. Each of the above bodies revolves round at its own axis as well. Our sun along with its family takes one round of the galactic center in 22.5 crore years. All galaxies including ours are moving away at a terrific velocity of 20,000 mile s per second.




    And now the alternative scientific meaning of the mantra step by step:

    OM BHUR BHUVAH SWAH:
    Bhur the earth, bhuvah the planets (solar family), swah the Galaxy. We observe that when an ordinary fan with a speed of 900 RPM (rotations Per minute) moves, it makes noise. Then, one can imagine, what great noise would be created when the galaxies move with a speed of 20,000 miles per second. This is what this portion of the mantra explains that the sound produced due to the fast-moving earth, planets and galaxies is Om. The sound was heard during meditation by Rishi Vishvamitra, who mentioned it to other colleagues. All of them, then unanimously decided to call this sound Om the name of God, because this sound is available in all the three periods of time, hence it is set (permanent). Therefore, it was the first ever revolutionary idea to identify formless God with a specific title (form) called upadhi. Until that time, everybody recognized God as formless and nobody was prepared to accept this new idea. In the Gita also, it is said, "Omiti ekaksharam brahma", meaning that the name of the Supreme is Om , which contains only one syllable (8/12). This sound Om heard during samadhi was called by all the seers nada-brahma a very great noise), but not a noise that is normally heard beyond a specific amplitude and limits of decibels suited to human hearing. Hence the rishis called this sound Udgith musical sound of the above, i.e., heaven. They also noticed that the infinite mass of galaxies moving with a velocity of 20,000 miles/second was generating a kinetic energy = 1/2 MV2 and this was balancing the total energy consumption of the cosmos. Hence they named it Pranavah, which means the body (vapu) or store house of energy

    TAT SAVITUR VARENYAM:
    Tat that (God), savitur the sun (star), varenyam worthy of bowing or respect. Once the form of a person along with the name is known to us, we may locate the specific person.Hence the two titles (upadhi) provide the solid ground to identify the formless God, Vishvamitra suggested. He told us that we could know (realize) the unknowable formless God through the known factors, viz., sound Om and light of suns (stars). A mathematician can solve an equation x2+y2=4; if x=2; then y can be known and so on. An engineer can measure the width of a river even by standing at the riverbank just by drawing a triangle. So was the scientific method suggested by Vishvamitra in the mantra in the next portion as under:-


    BHARGO DEVASYA DHEEMAHI:
    Bhargo the light, devasya of the deity, dheemahi we should meditate. The rishi instructs us to meditate upon the available form (light of suns) to discover the formless Creator (God). Also he wants us to do japa of the word Om (this is understood in the Mantra). This is how the sage wants us to proceed, but there is a great problem to realize it, as the human mind is so shaky and restless that without the grace of the Supreme (Brahma) it cannot be controlled. Hence Vishvamitra suggests the way to pray Him as under:


    DHIYO YO NAH PRACHO DAYAT:
    Dhiyo (intellect), yo (who), nah (we all), pracho dayat (guide to right Direction). O God! Deploy our intellect on the right path. Full scientific interpretation of the Mantra: The earth (bhur), the planets (bhuvah), and the galaxies (swah) are moving at a very great velocity, the sound produced is Om , (the name of formless God.) That God (tat), who manifests Himself in the form of light of suns (savitur) is worthy of bowing/respect (varenyam). We all, therefore, should meditate (dheemahi) upon the light (bhargo) of that deity (devasya) and also do chanting of Om. May He (yo) guide in right direction (pra****ayat) our(nah) intellect dhiyo.


    So we notice that the important points hinted in the mantra are:-

    1) The total kinetic energy generated by the movement of galaxies acts as an umbrella and balances the total energy consumption of the cosmos. Hence it was named as the Pranavah (body of energy). This is equal to 1/2 mv2 (Mass of galaxies x squre of velocity.)

    2) Realizing the great importance of the syllable OM , the other later date religions adopted this word with a slight change in accent, viz., Amen and Ameen.



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    I hold the view that the effectiveness of mantras is a matter of belief, just as the common man's faith in god is. For example, ref. post # 21 above, even if a person invariably chants the Margabandhu stotram before proceeding on any and every journey, it will definitely be found that he/she gets into danger/accidents/failure in mission. Such things are controlled by more powerful forces over-riding mantras.

    Of course we can go on discussing about efficacy of mantras and so on, because it is basically harmless

    Post #25 from Shri PJ :

    One problem with we brahmins seems to be that we claim knowledge without having it. In the above post (probably c&p from somewhere) the following errors are there:

    Mantra Heenam, Kriya Heenam, Bhakti Heenam Mahesvaree
    Yat Poojitam Mayaa Deva, Pari Poornam Tadastu Te.


    Oh God, I am weak in mantra,
    Oh God, i am weak in action and
    oh God, i am weak in devotion;
    Yet, I know my humble attempt is accepted by Thy Grace.

    Mantra heenam kriya heenam bhakti heenam Sureshwara,
    Yad pujitam maya deva paripoornam tadastu te,
    Aparaadha sahasraani kriyante hanisham maya,
    Dasyoham iti mam matwa,
    Kshamaswa..


    "yat poojitam mayaa deva paripoornam tadastu te" does not mean "Yet, I know my humble attempt is accepted by Thy Grace." but, "whatever pooja has been done by me, may that (pooja) become paripoornam or 100% perfect and complete to you."

    Here one is not only taking his slip-shod pooja for granted but he is also empowering himself saying "whatever I have done, may it look perfect for you". If we try to put it in Tamil context, it will be equivalent to a woman ordering her children to eat and go without commenting on the food items. (குத்தம் கொறை சொல்லாமல் வயத்தெ றொப்பிட்டுப்போ, இல்லயானால் அடுத்த சாப்பாடு கோவிந்தா!)

    kriyante hanisham maya, is incorrect. It should be kriyante aharniSam mayaa, meaning "thousands of sins (aparaadhaH) are being committed by me during day & night."

    And, since we are very clever and are sure we will never improve, it is said that god should condone all these aparaadhas considering the fact that " I" am a dAsa or servant (of god). Suppose our children or the students of a school are to take the very same attitude and recite this before the father/principal every day and prostrate their full length, will that lead to any improvement?

    All this should convince a right-thinking person that we create the "god" in our minds and make that god dance to every tune we like and then gloat over the fact that we have become great bhaktas of gods!
    श्रेयो भूयात् सकलजनानाम् ।
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    Aparadha Kshmapana Stotra which is quoted is from the point of view of a Bhaktha. Not a Mantrika. It is O.K in Bhakthi Yoga. Not In Mantra Yoga. Again it depends on what you are reciting the Mantra for. If it is for general spiritual advancement it is O.K. But if it is for a particular Karya Siddhi, mistakes would result in the sankalpa not yielding the results which are sought after.
    யாதும் ஊரே யாவரும் கேளிர்.

    நச்சினார்க்கினியன்.
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    There are some posts which deserves no reply ( post no 27 ). One problem with we brahmins seems to be that we claim knowledge without having it This quote mentioned in the post no 27 is applicable to that member aptly.


    I have clearly mentioned in my post no 25
    All are not proficient in reciting Mantras in Sanskrit; they can choose to listen to Mantras recited by others.

    There are times when we are compelled to recite Mantras Like in Marriages, Seemandham, or even home Pujas.


    Mantra Heenam, Kriya Heenam, Bhakti Heenam Mahesvaree
    Yat Poojitam Mayaa Deva, Pari Poornam Tadastu Te.
    is not for big Homams etc


    Even Sasthrigal, I am sure Who are much more knowledgeable than this Member, advices to recite a particular
    mantra on certain occasions knowing fully well the implication of reciting it.

    We are not going to recite Sandi Homam, or Navgraha Homam, Ganapathy Homam or other Sacred important mantras, only in cases where we do our home Pujas , Sasthrigal Advice this.


    Any person even with a very poor intelligence can also understand this from my post.
    Last edited by P.J.; 18-02-2013 at 09:05 PM.
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    Vedam Chanting by the European Veda Union Group

    Must watch !!!


    Vedam Chanting by the European Veda Union Group - YouTube
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