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    Karadaiyan Nombu (Masi Panguni Nombu)

    This year's Karadaiyan Nombu falls on the night of 14th/15th March. The auspicious time for performing Nombu is stated to be 3.45 a.m. on Tuesday, the 15th March. As the time is quite inconvenient for many to perform the function at such early hours, please let me know whether the same can be performed on the evening of Monday, the 14th March. Or else, will it be alright if the function is performed on Tuesday, the 15th any time after 3.45 a.m.
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    When the exact sankramanam time happens to be at such an unearthly hour like it is this year, the general practice is, I am told, some convenient time as close as is possible, before, but not later. So it appears that we can choose a time on 14th night, as late as is convenient.
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    On 14-3-2011 night at 9 to 10 -30 pm gowri panchangam uddiyogam is good. and Guru hora from 10 to 11 pm, So it is good to do Kaaradayan nonbu from 10 to 10-30 pm . in the month of Maasi. or 7pm to 7-30 pm on 14-3-2011 is also good; hora and gowri panchangam is good.
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    Karadaiyan nombu or Savitri nombu vritham,is a Tamil observance in which married woman prays for the well being & long life of her husband.As per my sastrigal Karadiyan Nombu 2011 is March 15 & time of breaking fast & to wear the Saradu is from 8am to 9 am. It is observed on the particular day when the transition between Tamil months Maasi & Panguni takes place.

    Karadai is the name of a unique Nivedyam prepared on this Day. Nombu means Vratham or upavasam (Fast)

    Karadayan Nombu is observed in rememberance of Satyvan-Savithri Legend. A princess,Savitri through her un paralled devotion saved her husband,Satyvan,from the clutches of death. This legend is very popular in India & there are several other observances based on this legend like Vat Savitri Puja.

    Savithri Nombu vritham is observed at the exact time when Masi month ends & Panguni begins.

    On the Virtham Day married woman fast & break the fast by eating the Karadai preparation with Butter. The preparation is known as Karadai Nombu Adai. It is believed Savithri cooked such a dish & offered it to Lord Yama along with unmelted Butter as a sort of Thanksgiving for sparing her Husbands Life.
    Another Important ritual is the wearing of the Kaaradi Nombu saradu,which is a yellow thread, around the neck.
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    if one goes through the archives, one can find another extensive and detailed thread re karadiyan nonbu

    just out of curiosity, and no offence meant, do we have equivalent nonbus for men? my mother was non practising to most rituals, and hence barring shraddham, i am not familiar with these functions. pray someone enlighten me.
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    Dear Shri kunjuppu ji,

    In the same vein, I am able to recall several puranic instances where the pathivratas did all sorts of things, like Parvathi doing rigorous penance to marry Siva, Nalayini even taking her husband to Daasi's house, Savitri wrenching back her husband's life back from Yama, using her cleverness and so on, to be united / reunited with their pathis. But, barring Rama's efforts to claim back Sita from Raavana, which, unfortunately did not even last long afterwards, as he had to banish a pregnant Sita away, I am not able to recall any instance where the pathi tried to retrieve the pathni, necessitating a vratam to complement Karadayan Nonbu. I would be glad and feel enlightened if some knowledgeable person(s) amongst our members could come up with a suitable case and prove me wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLN View Post
    When the exact sankramanam time happens to be at such an unearthly hour like it is this year, the general practice is, I am told, some convenient time as close as is possible, before, but not later. So it appears that we can choose a time on 14th night, as late as is convenient.
    True to the Indian genius — too clever by half ! — the "nonpu" is observed not when the sun enters the Meena Rasi, but at the time when sun would have entered Meena rasi some 1750 years ago!! This year the sun entered meena rasi on February 19 itself !!
    श्रेयो भूयात् सकलजनानाम् ।
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    Dear Shri Sangom ji,

    I guess you are giving that date (i.e., Feb 19/20) on the basis of the Saka Era system, adopted as the official calendar by Govt. India. But, we find, by and large, the panchangas in our country follow only solar/lunar calendars. Can you enlighten more on this?
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    HOW TO PREPARE SWEET KARADAI DISH

    There are 2 types Karadai preparation sweet & savory.

    INGREDIENTS

    * 2 CUPS RICE FLOUR
    *1/4 CUP TUVAR DAL or KARAMANI
    *GRATED JAGGERY 1 CUP or same amount of solid jaggery
    (use less jaggery if u want less sweet)
    *1/4 cup grated coconut
    *1/2 tsp cardamon powder

    PREPARATION METHOD

    *Roast the rice flour till off white or light brown
    the consistency should be like the rice powder used for kolams.
    Keep aside after roasting
    * Slightly roast the karamani or tuvar Dhal and then pressure cook till soft & drain excess water.
    *Boil water. The ideal ratio water to rice flour is 2:1
    * Add the rice flour slowly to prepare a dough.Stir well to avoid lumps. Cook till the dough achieves a thick consistency.
    *Add jaggery to the dough and stir continously until both blends together.
    *Add cardamon poeder ,cooked Karamani or Thur Dhal & coconut gratings or small slit coconuts & stir well to blend.
    *Cook the dough on small or medium flame. Keep stirring until the dough thickens.
    *Allow the dough to cool
    *Make a lemon sized ball from the cooked batter 7 spread or pat into small circular discs around 3" dia & 1/4 inch thick.
    The batter can be spread on hand or banana leaf or butter paper.
    *Make a hole in the centre of the non-cooked Batter disc (kara adai) or patties just as in a donut. Make as many as possible with the available batter. & keep ready for cooking.
    *Steam the patties in an idly cooker or pressure cooker with steam trays. Cook for 10 minutes.In case of pressure cooker,cook without putting the weight.
    Serve hot with butter after Puja.

    Tips


    If batter is watery or sticky,stir in low flame for some more time and cool.
    Heat jaggery and make it into liquid and strain it before using since it may contain sand or other impurities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLN View Post
    Dear Shri Sangom ji,

    I guess you are giving that date (i.e., Feb 19/20) on the basis of the Saka Era system, adopted as the official calendar by Govt. India. But, we find, by and large, the panchangas in our country follow only solar/lunar calendars. Can you enlighten more on this?
    The official calender has a history behind it.

    A committee was appointed by the Government of India with experts in the field drawn from various parts of the country who were involved with preparation of Panchanga in local languages to draw up a reliable Panchanga in which the mathematical calculations provides the positions of grahas (the planets) and nakshatras (constellations) in the sky as they are observed.

    Thus, the Government of India has prepared the National Panchanga or the Indian national calendar in 1957 (was proposed by Saha and Lahiri in 1952), which is used in predictive astrology. The Lahiris Ephemeris published annually is the most widely used English almanac in Vedic astrology apart from the many Panchangas published in local languages, which are mostly based on the National Panchanga.
    Panchangam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I have heard there was a lot of criticism from the so called secular Indians for this effort. But Babu Rajendra Prasad, the first President of India was firm about this.

    Lahiri's Ayanamsa is used by Astrologers all over India.

    Late Mr.N.C.Lahiri was a well known astrologer and Panchang-author. He was a participant in the conference astrologers and Panchang-authors held by the Paramacharya in 1966 at Kalahasthi.
    யாதும் ஊரே யாவரும் கேளிர்.

    நச்சினார்க்கினியன்.
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