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    Would this be an intercaste marriage?

    Namaskaram,
    This is my first query on this public forum . I have a genuine query, that has risen due to a quagmire that i find my friend has found himself in . He is an tamil iyer man , who is 27 years old. And likes a brahmin girl ,but she is an Andhra brahmin or Telegu brahmin , now my friend's family is one that respects traditions and customs and very orthodox , so would going ahead with this proposal be considered as an inter-caste marriage? ?
    This is a genuine query.
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    Thanks in Advance .
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    NO. Nowhere is there any rule in any Dharma Sasthra that the girl should belong to the same region or speak the same language. Only Gotras matter.
    யாதும் ஊரே யாவரும் கேளிர்.

    நச்சினார்க்கினியன்.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nacchinarkiniyan View Post
    NO. Nowhere is there any rule in any Dharma Sasthra that the girl should belong to the same region or speak the same language. Only Gotras matter.
    Thanks for your input ,sir. But to further clarify on your post . Would it be a problem , if the boy and girl belonged to geographically disparate regions but to the same gothra .As the geographical distance solves the problem of a direct relation if I'm not mistaken . please advise
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    Quote Originally Posted by InquisitiveMind View Post
    Thanks for your input ,sir. But to further clarify on your post . Would it be a problem , if the boy and girl belonged to geographically disparate regions but to the same gothra .As the geographical distance solves the problem of a direct relation if I'm not mistaken . please advise
    Mr. IM,

    Normally no Brahman worth his salt will agree to a 'sagotra' - marrying in the same gotra - marriage. They just are afraid of the heavens falling down on their heads. But there have been such marriages, though very few and those couples are as normal as any others - some problems, some difficulties, etc., which are present in all households. To obviate the orthodoxy's objections a symbolic adoption of the girl by a relative of another gotra-usually maternal uncle or father's sister's husband will be a good idea. I know of one or two cases like that.
    श्रेयो भूयात् सकलजनानाम् ।
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    Would this be an intercaste marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by InquisitiveMind View Post
    Thanks for your input ,sir. But to further clarify on your post . Would it be a problem , if the boy and girl belonged to geographically disparate regions but to the same gothra .As the geographical distance solves the problem of a direct relation if I'm not mistaken . please advise
    Marriage between the boy and girl belonging to same Gothra is not permitted under the rules covering traditional matrimonial system. This may be due to fear of physical and medical complications in the progeny due to endogamy and inbreeding in close knit groups. But in the expanding society the relevence of Gothra has diminished much and there are quite a few cases of marriages within the the same Gothra take place now a days.

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    That's interesting .I've also heard that if it can be proved that there is no relation between the girl and boy for seven generations then marriage within the same gotra is permissible . Does this argument merit any standing . Please feel free to share your thoughts.
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    Dear Sri InquisitiveMind Ji,

    By your questions to answers, I am starting to doubt your claim that your question was sincere to start with. You also claim your are you are 22 years of age in your profile - that belies your knowledge.

    Actually, who are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRS View Post
    Dear Sri InquisitiveMind Ji,

    By your questions to answers, I am starting to doubt your claim that your question was sincere to start with. You also claim your are you are 22 years of age in your profile - that belies your knowledge.

    Actually, who are you?

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    Dear Sirs,
    I can assure you that my question was sincere , as it affects the lives of two people I am closely associated with and am trying to help , and are in the midst of a turmoil in their lives torn between tradition, respect for parents and love .
    I can also assure you that my claim of being 22 years old is also very valid . I am ready to submit proof if needed and as far as my knowledge is concerned , I assure you my knowledge of traditions , slokas et al. is miniscule if compared to a traditional Iyer boy of the same age . The "knowledge" that I have procured is only through scouring the internet and trying to read books so that I may be able to better understand my culture and tradition , rather than submit blindly to half truths.

    Please do contribute to the discussion if you are satisfied with the affidavit of my credentials .
    Thanks.
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    Dear Sri InquisitiveMind Ji,

    Fair enough.

    Before we go any further, please send me your personal details (name, address, job, phone #) by PM to me, the Moderator, in confidence, so I can check you out.

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    Banning Sagotra marriage may be based on the principle that a union is most successful when complements unite and the least successful or even detrimental when equals unite. It would indeed be interesting to find out whether there are complementary gotras i.e., whether the predominant qualities of one rishi complement those of another.Though the saptarishis are complete in themselves, those who descend from them need not be and mostly are not so. Thus the predominant qualities may be passed on. For example those belonging to the kaushika gotra are supposed to be short tempered and this being attributed to viswamitra ( source - wikipedia). Similarly for those belonging to other gotras, there may be some common qualities among each of them?
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