Thread: temple priests

Originally Posted by srkpriv

You do something, doesn't make it right!, You do something, doesn't make it relevant, You do something, doesnt make it useful, You disagree strongly or weakly doesn't mean it is wrong!. All it implies is, you continue to do it without questioning it that's it!

You can be all praise of agamas, or rights of one priest over one temple and otherwise, but that is just your view.

It is not that other people dont disagree or get mad about something, but when they express, they do so in a politically correct and civil way!.

What you are telling is not at all correct!!!!!!!
Let me put forth like this, even a hindu can enter a christian church and becme a priest there....why not? again by what science or maths logic you are saying like only christians can become Father or Mother or Sister....why not a musalman or an hindu? Seems rubbish right?

Ya its the same way with Agamas........they are principles but not like foolish IPC......they are eternal and supermost.......

You people take great pride in takine Kuran word for word to create separate law for them naa? like they can marry n times and live like an animal...........

Then why you say "...just your view" when it comes to Agamas.....

I will also say "u can marry n times if you are a musalman......" is not kuran's view but muslaman's view........so i remove separate muslim laws......would they allow these? Never in the history.........because they want to enjoy unlimitedly.......

And with Agamas there were never enjoyments.......

Ok leave all that.........could these NB guies know how to wear a panjakacham.......from whom they are going to get training? from Brahmin priests? Take it from me until the final brahmin soul remains it wont happen.........

You know how strict the vedic life in Padashalas? Are these idiots going to spend 4 years and study all that without their favourite chicken and fish?

Never never.............there aim is to destroy the holiness and sit over traditions and austerity.........and for mere sense gratification you are using your matter composed brain and argue in futility........these are soul provoking subjects..........

Because I dont share the same opinion with agamas or brahmanas or aranyaas etc. I dont know how many people in the forum share the same view as yours.

ksksat27 said>>Ya its the same way with Agamas........they are principles but not like foolish IPC......they are eternal and supermost.......

You people take great pride in takine Kuran word for word to create separate law for them naa? like they can marry n times and live like an animal...........

Then why you say "...just your view" when it comes to Agamas.....

It is so funny when you say these and how conservative/traditional/primitive in your view you are!. Basically you are in a well and think the whole world is that!. Do you even think a panchakacham is that important? You may say one text or other how important is that, I am including that text, is that relevant in this day and age!. What is wrong in praying to god in jeans or ordinary shirt or pant!. God will get angry and say, (say with loud voice the next sentence in quotes) "How dare you wear a jean, jean is a western man creation, I am an Iyengar (or Iyer) God. In my unversite I expect you to wear panchakacham, otherwise you will be punished."

Our agamas, aranyakas, brahma sutra, brahmanas, vedic texts need revision according to our current situation, where impractical and illogical things needs to be removed and the rights things intact, so that a person like you, will not take wearing a panchakacham a serious affair.

Ok leave all that.........could these NB guies know how to wear a panjakacham.......from whom they are going to get training? from Brahmin priests? Take it from me until the final brahmin soul remains it wont happen.........

Do you think we have a say in this? A Government order was sent already and the doors are opened now. It is past saving. The question is if and only if we brahmins were smart enough really (as opposed to feeling smart) we would have embraced other castes, taught them vedas with all the proper ritual specifications and included them in the main stream thereby ensuring equality and also showed that we can be among others together as one as opposed to a government order ensuring that!.

The brahmins have lost this opportunity also to mend fences with other castes. All they want is acceptance into mainstream hinduiism as equals, it is not even that bad, in that way we can face our common enemy that is islam and christianity who eat our people in the name of God. it is only a matter of time (as a last man standing) you will watch these happening to your religion in your own eyes!.

You know how strict the vedic life in Padashalas? Are these idiots going to spend 4 years and study all that without their favourite chicken and fish?

Never never.............there aim is to destroy the holiness and sit over traditions and austerity.........and for mere sense gratification you are using your matter composed brain and argue in futility........these are soul provoking subjects..........

very true! if you really extend this argument, pretty much, we cannot follow or bind ourselves with any hindu texts other than some pretty basic ones (which are really really good ones, capturing the essence of humanity, sprituality, faith, reverence, and humaneness) which were written in various texts here and there. With the situation changed so much, I am not even sure, whether the Yujur Veda Samhita, Sama Veda Samhita and so many other rituals that we practice carry any sense what so ever, I dont intend any offence to any one, but I think it is high time, hindus join together and refine their scripts apppriately to reflect the current context and time than sink ourselves to the past.

Originally Posted by grajendran

I'm not sure that Agamas are accepted to be the one binding book by all hindus as were Bible/Koran. Therefore the applicability of Agamas and its latitude is very subjective.

Regards

I agree with SRKPRIV. Brahmins don't have monpoly or patent for vedas and rituals and who ever does that with sincerity should be welcome. We have a history where ramanujam has cconverted many dalits into brahmins. Unless they know the beauty of the Hindu religions(which is more brahmic and vedic in many sense), we can'nt ask them to shown them as hindu and this it the weaknedss that is being exployted by ISLAM/CHRISTIANITY for conversion. Once more people start learning this we can find more people spreading the message of vedas/hinduism other than brahmins, which is a healthy sign for Hinduism. But, the flip side here is we dont know the cunning motive of karunanidthi announcing this though he has mentioned that whoever qualifies only will be considered for this.

We very well know the motive of karunanithi, the only motive is VOTES!. That's it.

Originally Posted by mukesh

I agree with SRKPRIV. Brahmins don't have monpoly or patent for vedas and rituals and who ever does that with sincerity should be welcome. We have a history where ramanujam has cconverted many dalits into brahmins. Unless they know the beauty of the Hindu religions(which is more brahmic and vedic in many sense), we can'nt ask them to shown them as hindu and this it the weaknedss that is being exployted by ISLAM/CHRISTIANITY for conversion. Once more people start learning this we can find more people spreading the message of vedas/hinduism other than brahmins, which is a healthy sign for Hinduism. But, the flip side here is we dont know the cunning motive of karunanidthi announcing this though he has mentioned that whoever qualifies only will be considered for this.

Our government is peculiar in its treatment of religion. In the West the Church is made separate from the State. This means that the government will not interefere in the affairs of religion. But in our country there is only the pretence of secularism. If the country is truly secular there is no sense in the government controlling religious activities. I wish there is a public interest litigation filed on this in the Supreme court.

dear mukesh,
i totally agree with you.hinduim is not the ancestoral property of brahmins.in many cases non-brahmins has contributed much more to dharma then brahmins.recent case is swami ramdev,a sc by caste.he has infused new vigour to dharma through yoga and scientific representatin of dharma.who can deny cotribution of swami vivekananda.and why people like mukesh forget that most beloved of all shri krishna was a shudra.whose charnamrit brahmins drink with bliss.and what about shri rama.
as far as the temple priest issue is cocerned.we should welcome karunanidhi step,irrespective of what he is thinking in his mind.