Thread: Dravidian Nationalism and caste reservation

Originally Posted by kunjuppu

enna nachi,

colour of skin ?

i have relatives whose colours range from black as charcoal to fair as kashmiri. once they open their mouths, they all sound the same, with the talalayam patois that is the trademark of us from palghat and beyond west.

kunjuppu,palakkad girls are beauties with fair skins,at least in my associations with them,the grub makes me drool even now.

re humbleness, i should disagree with you, only on the point of colour. those with 'fair' skin have a chip on their shoulders that they are somehow 'superior' to those of a darker hue. to the outside world we are all darkies. but within us TB, the concept of 'brahmana kaLai' is a strong myth that many of my relatives, and i presume, those fair skinned ones adhere to.

generally we brahmins have good self esteem.that is why dravidians ridicule us and our ways and mock us.its not worked,we are diplomatic to the core.skin color does give one a sense of superiority,i agree.brahmanai kalai is intellect more than looks,i think.

judging from the photos of the swayamvarams, and hearing through the private messages, about the economic status of those attendees, not many of them, in my view, are blessed with the so called brahmana kaLai. unfortunately, i think, it is these, who are the strongest adherents of the worst aspects of castes.

kunjuppu,dunno abt it,as i am not involved so intimately.your word is good enough.caste is something,thats ingrained kunjuppu.our scriptures have explained the correct context,but various interpreters have screwed it big time.caste will not go away from our community,is my reading.

somehow, i think, economic status and colour of skin, appears to play a part in people's perception of themselves and castes.

i have found gounders,mudaliars, even the scavengers who used to clean the bucket toilet at my grandparents in the 1950s, fairer than the women in my household. so i tend to disagree, that fairer skin is a gift of the gothrams. more likely, is that some of our ancestor women were raped by the persian or central asian muslim invaders or were exchanged for favours from the portuguese. that would explain the fact for the select few of our community being fair skinned.

thank you.

agreed spot on.not sure about raping and all,but north indians suffered a lot compared to us southerners.south,iyengar folks are definitely more stately,fair,good looking folks compared to iyer men and women.dravidians have a penchant for iyengar women though,dunno the exact reason,maybe becoz they are more spirited than iyer women.caste is a identifying factor,and i have come to accept it,even though i personally view scriptural injunctions,differently.

nachi naga.

Originally Posted by pvraman

Dear Sir

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The European travelers observations is that at that time of arrival there were different skins in India. So it reduces the exchange. As for as the Rape by muslims & percians are concerned, most of the things occured in North, to avoid that many were converted and like rajputs died. They were strong above Narmada River.

A black in cold countries without exposure to sun, within few centuries will turn Maaniram. A white under sun will get tanned and eventually will be black in few gens.

Is it not one of the reasons that the fair skin and dark skin is due to the prolonged exposure to sun and it is not the so called Arya Dravida stories?. While the workers in the field are invariably black because of the sun, our ancient professions does not require the same. So, we are various colours so does in other community too.

Regards

pvr,

scientifically you write.have to agree with you regarding color of the skin.imo,all of us are from africa and got migrated to entire world.most dravidians do look from people of african origin,and look so beautiful.karuppa irundalum lakshnamaga irukka,is my appreciation of dravidians.

govt of india has actively encouraged caste reservation policies,its better to accept it and move on to be successful materially and spiritually.tamizh nadu has slipped in making progress in industrial development,information technology,bio-medical sciences.in fact AP is leading in all fields from south,followed by karnataka,kerala and tn.

nachi naga.