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    Yes sir you are very very right. The relationship with Bhagawan should be of anandh, but not portube with money. All I mean is we all can see Bhagawan if our shardha and bhagati is worth.
    If someone says that this Kalki avatar is true then why charge money to be one.
    Love towards lord is far great then just money and cure comes after realization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravikumar12345 View Post
    .... The relationship with Bhagawan should be of anandh, but not portube with money. All I mean is we all can see Bhagawan if our shardha and bhagati is worth.
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    ravi,

    i do not understand.

    which language is portube, shardha and bhagati? what do these words mean?

    please explain.

    thanks.
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    Shardha means "S" see. "H" hear and "R" read Da Hindu Aspects.
    Where you show your devotion. There is two kinds of Shardha. First what you do from within you'r heart. This is with total devotion where only thing is attach is you'r soul and the rest doesn't matter. Second is when you only show you'r devotion entangle with any gain. We all want something that is why we pray to God. This is another form of shardha.
    Bhakati is what is done to show Lord that you'r doing it to serve him but not for any gain.
    when you want to get some flower do you pick up bad flowers? I guess not, but we all will pick beautiful flowers and nice ones. But what happen to the bad ones ? Nature played on them and they become bad, so is this world of illusion that we all are bonded with.
    Bhakati is like showing and knowing the one with full concept and with great interest as Hanuman Jee.

    hope this will help and if someone can help me here please do so because Iam just learning from you all.
    Thanks
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    Let us ignore this so called swamis and gurus who have set shop only to make money.the real Guru will not print tickets and ask for money. Only the offerings u r able to give will be recd. Ex. The great PARAMACHARYA OF KANCHI who treated everyone who came to have Dharshan of him as equals. how mighty and influential they may be. Instead u can go to any orphanages, old age homes etc with sweets, biscuits, clothes etc and give them with ur hands. The smiles in their faces when
    they receive is the real BLESSING
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    Dear drsdm23 Ji,

    In our Hindu tradition, Guru seeks you out, not the other way around. Any 'Guru' who is asking for money for his darshan is a fake - please do not waste your money, just to see his 'powers'. Take your family to a good magic show instead.

    If you still want to spend that money, please hold on - I'll be in India next year, and I can be your Guru. I charge 10% less than what this guy charges and I can readily show you my power, by making your hard earned money disappear!

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    KRS
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRS View Post
    Dear drsdm23 Ji,

    In our Hindu tradition, Guru seeks you out, not the other way around. Any 'Guru' who is asking for money for his darshan is a fake - please do not waste your money, just to see his 'powers'. Take your family to a good magic show instead.

    If you still want to spend that money, please hold on - I'll be in India next year, and I can be your Guru. I charge 10% less than what this guy charges and I can readily show you my power, by making your hard earned money disappear!

    Regards,
    KRS
    Good Idea Sri KRS ji,

    Let him not wait for one year. I am willing to act as your deputy from now onwards. I am willing to enter into a proper agreement with you on profit sharing.

    All the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravikumar12345 View Post
    Shardha means "S" see. "H" hear and "R" read Da Hindu Aspects.
    Where you show your devotion. There is two kinds of Shardha. First what you do from within you'r heart. This is with total devotion where only thing is attach is you'r soul and the rest doesn't matter. Second is when you only show you'r devotion entangle with any gain. We all want something that is why we pray to God. This is another form of shardha.
    Bhakati is what is done to show Lord that you'r doing it to serve him but not for any gain.
    when you want to get some flower do you pick up bad flowers? I guess not, but we all will pick beautiful flowers and nice ones. But what happen to the bad ones ? Nature played on them and they become bad, so is this world of illusion that we all are bonded with.
    Bhakati is like showing and knowing the one with full concept and with great interest as Hanuman Jee.

    hope this will help and if someone can help me here please do so because Iam just learning from you all.
    Thanks
    ravi,

    i think your intellectual prowess is beyond the comprehensions of the majority of the members here.

    we cater to the 80% .. those of the extreme needs and wants, we are unable to accommodate.

    i think there are other forums where people of your calibre are welcome and do thrive.

    thanks for giving us a chance and sorry to disappoint you.
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    This is very simple to understand. The concept of Avatars of Vishnu is misunderstood. In Parasuram avatar, he fought and ended the tyranny of the Kshatriyas. In Rama Avatar, he fought and ended the Demon king Ravana and in Krishna Avatar he ended Narakasura and also ended the tyranny of the Gauravas. If we look closer, in every Avatar, there is a purpose. In the Kurukshetra war, he revealed his true identity to Arjuna. In the above avatars, especially Rama avatar, he himself takes the pain of living the life as a human being, living in forest, etc. He neither did any "preaching" or "teaching", nor he claimed to be God and asked for offerings.

    The purpose of the Kalki avatar is to annihilate demonic entities of Kaeli Yuga and i am sure even if Lord Vishnu takes an avatar now, he will live the life as a normal human being until his purpose is fulfilled. He will not be interested in getting offerings.

    This concept of "God" being a preacher is misunderstood due to the modern Gods and Religions and their "teachings" due to which people claim to be God.
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    Desires arise because of the delusion that the individual jeeva is independent and powerful; that the body mind system with its constituents (the ego, intellect, the sense-organs and the sense-functions) is the real ‘Self’. If this delusion did not exist, the jeeva would be in a state of bliss, there would be no hankerings and frustrations.
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    Kalki Bhagavan !

    As one who do not know anything about Kalki Bhagavan I have nothing to contribute to the discussion. But I wish to share an incident that happened some time back. While traveling to Delhi by train to attend a wedding, I found half of our A/c Sleeper Couch was occupied by Russians (mostly of them burly ladies). Later on some of them who spoke English told me that they were from Siberia and returning home after attending a Spiritual camp conducted by Kalki Bhagavan, near Chennai. That was a good news.This person has attracted people from far of Siberia.

    As I have not attached myself to any Spiritual denomination or Guru I feel happy and grateful to respect any one who is doing some thing good to uplift the humanity, be he an Avatar or call himself by any other name. I found the "Oneness" movement of this spiritual leader has published almost all our Scriptures in the well documented Websites. Wonderful attempt indeed.

    Regards,
    Brahmanyan.
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    The purpose of the Kalki avatar is to annihilate demonic entities of Kaeli Yuga and i am sure even if Lord Vishnu takes an avatar now, he will live the life as a normal human being until his purpose is fulfilled. He will not be interested in getting offerings.

    Thanks Siddantha. I fully accept your views.
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