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ஸ்ரீ சுவர்சாஸ் ,மஹா பெரியவாள் நாம் எல்லோரும் நடமடுன் தெய்வம் என்று டான் என்னுகிரோமே .அவரை ஒரு குரு என்று எங்க சொல்லறோமே சொல்லுங்கோ .இது நம்ப்லோடய்ய நம்பிக்க என்று நான் சொல்கிரைன்.அது போல என்னோர்த்துர்க்கு கல்கி பகவன் தெய்வம் என்று நம்பிகை என்று னும்போ நினியாச்சுக்கனூம்.நன்றி.

Shree Suvarchas,

For us,Maha Periavaal is deivam.Similiarly for some others Kalki Bhagavan is deivam for them.Its a matter of each ones faith.I certainly will not questions anybodies faith sir.Thank you.

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Old 04-09-2009, 11:09 PM
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Paramacharyar never claimed that he is நடமாடும் தெய்வம்'. On the contrary the so called `Kalki Baghavan' claims that he is an avatar of God. There is a big difference between the two.

Lord Mahavishnu could not be caged in any enclosure where as the so called `kalki baghavan' is caged in a Glass Enclosure. Lord Krishna, right at the time of birth itself got out of Prison. Narasimha Avatar happened instantaneously by splitting a stone pillar. Those who claim as the so called `Kalki Baghavan' are insulting Lord Mahavishnu.

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I agree with Sri Vankataramani Ji. While some view Maha Periaval as 'deivam', I think the concept of an avatar is altogether different. Maha Periaval who understodd who He was always discouraged others to view him as 'Deivam'. That nomenclature should be understood in terms of 'Matha, Pithha, Guru Deivam' (mother, father and guru are 'Deivams').

There should be a law passed to bring in a criminal charge against anyone claiming to be an avatar and enriching themselves in the process on the gullibility of some in the public. Because, this affects the society.

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ஸ்ரீ ஆர்வீ,கயாரஎச்ஸ் ,

கல்கி பகவன் என்னக்கு த்ரிண்ட வரையில் ஒரு தப்பும் செய்யவில்லைய.அவதாரம் சொல்லிட்ட அவதரம் ஆகா முடியுமா? மனுஷ அவா கிட்ட போற நா அப்போ அவா கிட்ட எஅதோ பகவன் ஷக்தி இருக்கு நான் நினைகிரைன்.மஹா பெரியவாள் தான் என்ன தேய்வமா என்று எல்லாரையும் திட்டின .நம்போதன் மஹா பெரியவாள் தெய்வம் என்று பிரசாரம் பண்ணினது உட்கார்ந்து இருகோம்.நன்றி

Shree RV,KRS,

As far as i know Kalki Bhagavan & Amma have not conducted in a offensive way.Just because one says they are avataram ,can they become one-they prove it by actions.Otherwise how can so many people be flocking to them for bhakthi,gnayanam,shraddha...etc.MahaPeriavall scolded all of us for calling him god and in fact used to rubbish all of us as nonsense,when people asked him to change shastras.WE only made Mahaperiavaal as god and what not as avatar.Thank You!.

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Old 05-09-2009, 02:30 PM
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Cheating innocent public is very easy in India particularly using a religious cord. Most of the Godman cheat innocent public. We are duty bound to expose these frauds.

The so called `Kalki Baghavan' is one of the biggest fraud

We don't require an intermediatery between God and us.

There should be a criminal law against those who use religion and God for their own benefit. Anybody claiming supernatural powers should subject themselves for scientific verification.

If there is no regulation, gullible public will be cheated for ever.

Sometime back I read a conversation between Ramakrishna Paramahamsa(RP) and Swamy Vivekananda (SV). RP asks SV whether he is interested in learning past reading and mind reading technique. SV asks back what is the benefit of learning such a technique. RP says nothing. SV immediately says he is not interested in learning the technique.

Some of the Godman acquire `past reading and mind reading technique'. When these people tell about the past accurately, we tend to believe him. However all the future predictions follow only probability theory. Vaitheeswaran Koil Naadi is the best example. They collect thousands of rupees from innocent public.

It is high time, such spiritual frauds are exposed.

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Thumbs up Master and disciple

toall: Isaac Ezekiel says in his book on Sant Paltu Sahib: as follows.,
Millions of people visit the Master and see him,they hear his discources and describe him according to their own respectiv e understanding. They call him a kindly gentlemen, or a philosopher, a well learned man, a wise moralist. But few among them see the Lord in him.Everyone praises him accordining to his degree of understanding. One who is not developed inwardly fails to recognize him. He reveals himself only to those who are spiritually inclined. Like this Bhagavan cannot uplift any soul from this world to the source untill he himself realize god with in. Just a person do magic show and once shoe is over people tell every thing is humpack. s.r.k.
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One of my friend took me to Niyamam & Varadhapuram where Kalki Bhahavan blesses all.

Blindly I went. Were asked to pay an entrance fee of Rs.50.

Also, a personal discussion with Kalki Bhavan will cost Rs.5000.

Now, my curiosity is to know more about all DASA AVATHARS and who is true Kalki Bhahavan ? ( could not accept the exorbitant fees to get personal blessings, which is not possible for all. God can not be for only the affordable ! ).

Also, I came to know lot of young girls are inducted into the so called mission as disciples. This again is against nature.

Seeking the advise and guidance of ELDERS regarding this.

- Renganath.iyengar@ymail.com
I also know about this Bhagawan. Charging to have Darshan and all is common and we always pay heftly like in Tirupathi and other darshan places agaisnt payment. Hardly there no payment in well known temples, chagres are proportional to the need. why only spot kalki bhagawan. The point about kalki bhagawan is that I am also curious to know about his powers and Godhead nature because these days we hear numerous Bhagawan's coming up and they also have a set of devotess and their's are telecast and written media. Admitting young girls , I think it is done with their and paren'ts will as otherrwise many would ave to Police stns to complain. Dr Sundaram
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Originally Posted by drsdm23 View Post
I also know about this Bhagawan. Charging to have Darshan and all is common and we always pay heftly like in Tirupathi and other darshan places agaisnt payment. Hardly there no payment in well known temples, chagres are proportional to the need. why only spot kalki bhagawan. The point about kalki bhagawan is that I am also curious to know about his powers and Godhead nature because these days we hear numerous Bhagawan's coming up and they also have a set of devotess and their's are telecast and written media. Admitting young girls , I think it is done with their and paren'ts will as otherrwise many would ave to Police stns to complain. Dr Sundaram
This is another spiritual fraud. Please don't get cheated. Less you know about him, it is better
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hi

I read this one time and I would like others to know this
We as Sanatan Dharam mention that Rama was avatar of God Vishanu so why can it be like
" Rama has more characteristics of God within him that made him comparable to Lord itself. He meet all the qualities of Lords and thus we all see in him more of how God is suppose to be. "
In this way if we look we all have attama which takes it's form and then liens with the pramattama, when the deeds are done right.
This is also said in Vedas that one dharmatama can persist god and find his adobe.
Everyone has this capability all is we all have to harness this and understand why all this avatar?
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Old 15-09-2009, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ravikumar12345 View Post
hi

I read this one time and I would like others to know this
We as Sanatan Dharam mention that Rama was avatar of God Vishanu so why can it be like
" Rama has more characteristics of God within him that made him comparable to Lord itself. He meet all the qualities of Lords and thus we all see in him more of how God is suppose to be. "
In this way if we look we all have attama which takes it's form and then liens with the pramattama, when the deeds are done right.
This is also said in Vedas that one dharmatama can persist god and find his adobe.
Everyone has this capability all is we all have to harness this and understand why all this avatar?
Ok I also accept that every one of us can realise God. But those who are really enlightened are very very modest. They never commercialise their achievement.

The so called `Kalki Baghavan' we are discussing here is literally gone into a glass enclosure. Real Mahavishnu has come out breaking of a stone pillar for the sake of child devotee `Prahalada'.

If any body claims supernatural powers, I personally feel, we should verify the claim with a scientific mind.
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